ok, so the old m9750 laptop is 17 inches, with T7200, and 7950 GTX meaning its more of a power hog. Well the new laptop has a 8800m gtx, T7600, and is smaller 15.4 inches, either way alienware gives me bull saying that my computer is not powerful enough (watts) to power the new stuff, while all of them take a fraction of the power, my card takes 40, and 8800m is 35, regardless im wondering should i just buy it and install myself?Tell me if this makes sense......please.
Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.Tell me if this makes sense......please.
ya thats whati was thinking lol they were saying o no u can upgrade then they were like ummm no not compatible, i believe they are riding the m15x hype train. cuz both cards are mxm III
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Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*
no i know they are after my money lol but im saying is am i right or are they right, can i upgrade?
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001''][QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...
[/QUOTE]While the numbers maybe wrong, the 8800m GTX uses less power than the 7950 GTX, at least according to AnandTech.''The 8800M GTX ends up using slightly less power than the last-gen Go 7950 GTX,'' It says that right below the charts.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''yoyo462001''][QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...
[/QUOTE]While the numbers maybe wrong, the 8800m GTX uses less power than the 7950 GTX, at least according to AnandTech.''The 8800M GTX ends up using slightly less power than the last-gen Go 7950 GTX,'' It says that right below the charts. [/QUOTE]Ya lol i know, thats why i was like ummmm wtf????? Lol it takes less to power it why cant u upgrade it? Thats mxm III same as mine
Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....[/QUOTE]I have no idea really, I don't know what they look like or how big they are, just making random guesses.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''ch5richards''] Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....[/QUOTE]I have no idea really, I don't know what they look like or how big they are, just making random guesses.[/QUOTE]http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10%26um=1%26hl=en%26q=8800m%26ie=UTF-8%26sa=N%26tab=wi
inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE]it is NOT soddered. there is this thing called MXM and its like PCI-E for notebooks tho, see the 7950 GTX is MXM III, as is the 8800m gtx
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, its not that easy at all. You need an expert that you feel he can do this job. I dun think you want someone to destroy yout toy or do yo ?
lol but im 100% sure its not soddered. I can open it and even add another 7950GTX etc right now assuming i get card and cables
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE]it is NOT soddered. there is this thing called MXM and its like PCI-E for notebooks tho, see the 7950 GTX is MXM III, as is the 8800m gtx[/QUOTE]ok, where are you going to get the GTX module from? because they are hardly anywhere on the market and second of all you have to take into account that MXM is mainly for manufacturers to easily change GPU and i guesing you dont know much about the different heat dispersion each module has... to be honest it is really not worth it at all.
im not saying i want to do it, however, i think its complete BS that they wont upgrade it, all i want is to pay for my new card and get it installed
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990'']im not saying i want to do it, however, i think its complete BS that they wont upgrade it, all i want is to pay for my new card and get it installed[/QUOTE] well this is only for uk but they can be bought seprately http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/geforce_8800m.html
Thursday, April 15, 2010
Need help on purchasing/building a compu ...
Soo, I have never built a computer before but I'm going to attempt to, I need your help. I need all of the following parts for my previouslly bought computer (I bought from dell, don't ask lol ) and I need to know if these will be all compatible. Motherboard : [URL]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142[/URL]Ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211066Video Card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290Powersupply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052I will be using the CPU that came with my computer it's not great but it'll do (on a tight budget) and it's an Intel Pentium 4 2.79 Ghz cpu.Thank you, please reply.Need help on purchasing/building a compu ...
not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okayNeed help on purchasing/building a compu ...
[QUOTE=''j3ninja10'']not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okay[/QUOTE]K thanks a ton, so everything's compatible and stuff?
Make sure your dell case can accommodate your motherboard. Dell's newer computer has the I/O panel built-in (at the rear) and other motherboards do not fit in the case. Also, keep in mind that you will have to reactivate Windows in about 2 weeks after using your hard drive with those upgrades.
get this mobo overall its better and cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059 also this card is a little bit better and once again cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102700 it might not have 512mb of video ram but since both cards have 128bit from what ive hard it would be a bottleneck and you really need to upgrade you cpu really soon since i listed you cheaper parts try to get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037 at stock speeds it kills your pentium 4 and with that motherboard i listed it should overclock to great speeds
heres a cheaper powersupply too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
Wait until the 9000 series come out, instead of getting a 8000 series. It'll support Direct X 10.1, the 8600 only has 10, and it's not compatible with any future ones. So getting a mid-range 9000 is way better than a mid-range 8000, so you should spend the extra $50 or so to make sure your PC will last more than a year.
K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.
[QUOTE=''dackchaar'']K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.[/QUOTE] go for it and if you can just push your budget like $40 that E2140 would help alot espically if you get a good overclock on it you should get around 2.8-3.0ghz no problem
not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okayNeed help on purchasing/building a compu ...
[QUOTE=''j3ninja10'']not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okay[/QUOTE]K thanks a ton, so everything's compatible and stuff?
Make sure your dell case can accommodate your motherboard. Dell's newer computer has the I/O panel built-in (at the rear) and other motherboards do not fit in the case. Also, keep in mind that you will have to reactivate Windows in about 2 weeks after using your hard drive with those upgrades.
get this mobo overall its better and cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059 also this card is a little bit better and once again cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102700 it might not have 512mb of video ram but since both cards have 128bit from what ive hard it would be a bottleneck and you really need to upgrade you cpu really soon since i listed you cheaper parts try to get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037 at stock speeds it kills your pentium 4 and with that motherboard i listed it should overclock to great speeds
heres a cheaper powersupply too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
Wait until the 9000 series come out, instead of getting a 8000 series. It'll support Direct X 10.1, the 8600 only has 10, and it's not compatible with any future ones. So getting a mid-range 9000 is way better than a mid-range 8000, so you should spend the extra $50 or so to make sure your PC will last more than a year.
K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.
[QUOTE=''dackchaar'']K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.[/QUOTE] go for it and if you can just push your budget like $40 that E2140 would help alot espically if you get a good overclock on it you should get around 2.8-3.0ghz no problem
Good CPU and RAM stress programs
What are some good recommendations to put stress on my RAM and CPU?
Good CPU and RAM stress programs
Prime95OCCT
Good CPU and RAM stress programs
Prime95OCCT
Need some quick feedback...
So I am going to buy a new nvidia card... I was all set on getting a nice eVGA 8800GT 512mb superclocked card that looked pretty nice. Then I saw for only $20 more I could get an MSI 8800GTS 640m OC card. Basically the way I read it is that it sounds like a nice card. Its the newer 112 stream processor. I am not too sure and a bit confused on which one would be better. Newegg has a great price on the card at 289.99 and you get a 20 mail in rebate. The 8800GT is 269.99. I know the GTS doesnt have the price/performance ratio that the 8800GT does... but this card seems really nice. A bit more memory though it is 575mhz and the 8800GT is 650mhz. Help! Someone I am sure is much more tech savy than me and would know better. MSI also just released the card. What do you think? And dont say neither... wait for a new card or save up blah blah.. I am buying one or the other just need to decide. Thanks in advance!Need some quick feedback...
no stick with the 8800gts 512mb edition dont get the 640mb card Need some quick feedback...
the 8800gt superclocked is the better of those two cards
Wait for the 9000 series. It'll be compatible with DirectX10.1 and future DX's so it'll ensure that your system is futureproofed.
no stick with the 8800gts 512mb edition dont get the 640mb card Need some quick feedback...
the 8800gt superclocked is the better of those two cards
Wait for the 9000 series. It'll be compatible with DirectX10.1 and future DX's so it'll ensure that your system is futureproofed.
Overclocking sounds like a nightmare..
I want to overclock this processor..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116052Can I overclock it to around 3.0 GHz without worrying about the fan and everything?Any good tutorials out there that explain how to overclock.. I'm a huge noob and don't even know how to get into my BiosOverclocking sounds like a nightmare..
if you want to overclock that far you defenantly needs a heatsink fan or watercooler.hers a complete guidehttp://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/45121/nforce_680i_sli_overclocking.pdf Overclocking sounds like a nightmare..
that proc should go to 3ghz pretty easily on stock coolingconcealer
if you want to overclock that far you defenantly needs a heatsink fan or watercooler.hers a complete guidehttp://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/45121/nforce_680i_sli_overclocking.pdf Overclocking sounds like a nightmare..
that proc should go to 3ghz pretty easily on stock cooling
How good will my pc be
Im planning on buying 4 gigs (2x2) to i think make my computer pretty good (not on a crysis level) and i was wondering what you thinkProcessor : Amd athlon 64 x2 Dual Core processor 3800+Video Card: Nvidia Ge Force 8600 256 mbRam: G. Skill 4gig (2x2) (future a.k.a. soon here)Hard Drive. 200 gbSound Card: some stock stuff ( it works thas all i care for)
How good will my pc be
zero performance gain in games and 32 bit apps with 4gig vs 2gig. Some and only some 64 bit apps that need that kind of memory will benefit. Ur not running a server are you?How good will my pc be
forgot to say os : vista home premium
well i only have 1024 mb now so i thought 4 gigs would be really goodbecause most of my games need more memory
you only need 2 gigs to maximize performance...2 sticks never 4
Do not buy a 8600GTS! The ATI HD3850 is much better!
i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards
[QUOTE=''deathshand707'']i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE]Yeah, but the 8600 definately won't be running laps around ATi's best cards...
yeah ati cant compete with nvidias best but they still have a hold in the middle market, which just happens to be your budget. If you buy a mid range nvid card just despite ati, you're just kissing the ass of a camel you never get to ride. 3850 ownz 8600gt
[QUOTE=''deathshand707''] i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE] hahaha, dude you have no idea what you are talking about! The HD3850 kicks the 8600GTS's butt.
That's the same RAM I ordered on Friday! I hope it performs well...
I feel sorry for you kinda, cause you won't get much life out of the 8600GTS. You really shouldn't hate another video card company, in this case ATI, because it'll blind you to some of the excellent (and cheap) cards they're offering.
for one i wasnt talking baout the 8600 running laps around atis mid end but soone enought ill get an 8800 or wutever new is coming from nvidia
How good will my pc be
zero performance gain in games and 32 bit apps with 4gig vs 2gig. Some and only some 64 bit apps that need that kind of memory will benefit. Ur not running a server are you?How good will my pc be
forgot to say os : vista home premium
well i only have 1024 mb now so i thought 4 gigs would be really goodbecause most of my games need more memory
you only need 2 gigs to maximize performance...2 sticks never 4
Do not buy a 8600GTS! The ATI HD3850 is much better!
i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards
[QUOTE=''deathshand707'']i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE]Yeah, but the 8600 definately won't be running laps around ATi's best cards...
yeah ati cant compete with nvidias best but they still have a hold in the middle market, which just happens to be your budget. If you buy a mid range nvid card just despite ati, you're just kissing the ass of a camel you never get to ride. 3850 ownz 8600gt
[QUOTE=''deathshand707''] i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE] hahaha, dude you have no idea what you are talking about! The HD3850 kicks the 8600GTS's butt.
That's the same RAM I ordered on Friday! I hope it performs well...
I feel sorry for you kinda, cause you won't get much life out of the 8600GTS. You really shouldn't hate another video card company, in this case ATI, because it'll blind you to some of the excellent (and cheap) cards they're offering.
for one i wasnt talking baout the 8600 running laps around atis mid end but soone enought ill get an 8800 or wutever new is coming from nvidia
Can't play MP4s?
A little pissed of ATM. I've got iTunes/Quicktime, Windows Media Player and windows media player classic. All updated to the latest, and none of them will play my MP4 files! Quicktime run the video but nothing shows up...... How do I open these? I also can't drag them into iTunes like I've heard.... How do I play them?Sorry if this is thw wrong forum, but I'm not really sure where to put this.Can't play MP4s?
i use k lite MEGA with lots of stuff option for playback of virutually all files through mpcCan't play MP4s?
Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play.
[QUOTE=''trodeback'']Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play. [/QUOTE]Yes! DL'ed VLC and it works! Thanks Broski!
i use k lite MEGA with lots of stuff option for playback of virutually all files through mpcCan't play MP4s?
Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play.
[QUOTE=''trodeback'']Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play. [/QUOTE]Yes! DL'ed VLC and it works! Thanks Broski!
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