wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...

ok so i was having problems with my pc it wouldnt turn on just the fan and the LED would turn on for like a milisecond and then tit stopped so i thought it was the psu then i left it oveernight with out touching it i woke up right now tried to turn it on and i saw a little flame on my mobo what is wrong what happen???it was working fine for the few days that i built it my specs are in my sig wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer''] ok so i was having problems with my pc it wouldnt turn on just the fan and the LED would turn on for like a milisecond and then tit stopped so i thought it was the psu then i left it oveernight with out touching it i woke up right now tried to turn it on and i saw a little flame on my mobo what is wrong what happen???it was working fine for the few days that i built it my specs are in my sig [/QUOTE] if you have warrenty take it back now, if you got it from newegg.com tell thm your problem they will tell you what to do.wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...
i built the computer?what do i need to return the mobo and the psu or what cuz for i sure im retutnign the mobo
if you saw a flame on the mobo then thats no good. Maybe the cpu and ram wasnt effected but you need to smell them and see if they smell like rotten eggs. thats how you know if they are burnt or not.
ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE] a few reasons, 1 do you have a surge protector? 2 do you have a screw inback of the mobo you forgot about? 3 faulty board.
would it be becuase of a screw maybe but i have to check do you think my psu was also dead from yestersays topic?
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE]

Maybe a faulty capacitor blew, in which case that would be covered by the warranty provided by the motherboard's manufacturer. You did use the spacer screws to separate your motherboard from your case right? If not it could have been a short circuit.
[QUOTE=''ProudLarry''][QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE] Maybe a faulty capacitor blew, in which case that would be covered by the warranty provided by the motherboard's manufacturer. You did use the spacer screws to separate your motherboard from your case right? If not it could have been a short circuit.[/QUOTE] there is actually a chance that either static electric or maybe one of the dangleing wires somehow shocked the mobo, Thats why I tie them up in the top. only a theory though.
i didnt use the spacers cuz the case has some already emebeded in it
just ontop of my head, any electrical interference like maybe something electronic touching your case or magnets, cellphone, or moitor too close to the case?
Corsair PSU's have surge protection.I cant really help on this topic but i hope you get your PC working fine again.
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']just ontop of my head, any electrical interference like maybe something electronic touching your case or magnets, cellphone, or moitor too close to the case?[/QUOTE]i had an old monitor that is has alot of static but it was on top of my wooden desk and pc was to the right on tile floor
It sounds like the original problem was the board was shorting out. Since you saw flame, it is very possible the board is dead, so if possible you should try to get a replacement.Next time you get similar results, everything turning on for a second then turning back off. Try setting the motherboard up outside of the case on a phone book or something to see if the case is causing the shorting.
heres a pic
Where did you purchase it from? I would return it immediately.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Where did you purchase it from? I would return it immediately.[/QUOTE]i got it from zipzoomfly but the 30day warranty thing is over so i have to return it to MSI
From what I can see one of the capacitors fried, Do have a better image so we can see in more detail? Your Motherboard is fried you need a new one, CPU,Ram,GPU should be alright unless there was a big surge.
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i think the capacitator must have suffered from the flame so do you think all my other parts are still fine how would i be able to tell?

hows this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814143119



what do you think?hows this card?
its a borrring...hows this card?
great card.. one of the best on the market atm.
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']its a borrring...[/QUOTE]





....?
okay, its nice but only for like the next 2 years until all game require crysis worthy specs....sarcasm is hard to type
id personally wait till feb. cuz new cards are supposedly supposed to come out then.

Getting a 64-bit operating system?

I was thinking about grabbing a 64-bit operating system, but thought I'd ask here first. My card supports directX 10, so I *could* get Vista if I so wished (I currently use Windows XP Home Edition, 32-bit). First question is this: What are some of the main advantages (in a nutshell) of having a 64-bit operating system?Second question would be, What do I need to do in order to make my computer compatible with a 64-bit operating system? Because if I only need a 64-bit processor then I've got it. Getting a 64-bit operating system?
The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.Getting a 64-bit operating system?
[QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.
[QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE]Yeah I really have no reason to get 2 more gigs of RAM, actually. Thanks for the replies anyhow :)
[QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE] Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system?
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system? [/QUOTE]Well if you look at it this way, the current sweet spot for ram on XP is around 2gig. Now Vista uses more ram then XP, so I'd recommend at least to get around 3 (or 4 if you're getting Vista x64) of ram.You'd probably find that you'd run fine on your system, but if you find the cash, I'd go up to 3 gig.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE] Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system? [/QUOTE]I read on the Microsoft's website that anytime Microsoft certifies drivers for Vista 32 they require drivers for Vista 64 too.

[QUOTE=''visceron'']I read on the Microsoft's website that anytime Microsoft certifies drivers for Vista 32 they require drivers for Vista 64 too.[/QUOTE]Previously though there wasn't really a need for them to expend the effort to develop 64bit drivers, you could see that with the sketchy driver support for XP 64bit.Of course nowdays you'll see a Vista 64bit driver alongside a Vista 32bit driver the majority of the time, for the reason that you've said in your post.
A few things to consider when talking about 64-bit Windows:- even though new drivers come in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors and you'll have no problems finding drivers for common hardware like video cards and such, that is not the case for all your legacy hardware (printers, scanners, usb devices like mp3 players etc). Moreover, 64-bit drivers are less mature then 32-bit drivers (slower performance, more bugs). In case no Vista driver exists, you can try XP drivers on 32-bit Vista but you cannot use XP drivers on 64-bit Vista.- system software like anti-virus, defragmenting utilities, firewall's etc need a specific versions for vista 64. There aren't that many available- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.
[QUOTE=''Gog'']- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.[/QUOTE]''The large number of units that Supreme Commander can support at any given time means that you're likely to encounter hiccups when the action gets intense. The game will regularly throw hundreds of units on the screen, and your computer has to keep track of each one. We found that you'll need 1GB of RAM, at the bare minimum, to play the game effectively. If you've exhausted all the other video card and CPU upgrade avenues, you might want to consider bringing your total system memory up to 2GB or 4GB levels. We found that the game felt slightly more responsive with 4GB of memory even though it wasn't reflected in the frame rate results.''http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166198/p-6.htmlAnd they were playing in XP and not vista.
[QUOTE=''Gog'']A few things to consider when talking about 64-bit Windows:- even though new drivers come in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors and you'll have no problems finding drivers for common hardware like video cards and such, that is not the case for all your legacy hardware (printers, scanners, usb devices like mp3 players etc). Moreover, 64-bit drivers are less mature then 32-bit drivers (slower performance, more bugs). In case no Vista driver exists, you can try XP drivers on 32-bit Vista but you cannot use XP drivers on 64-bit Vista.- system software like anti-virus, defragmenting utilities, firewall's etc need a specific versions for vista 64. There aren't that many available- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.[/QUOTE]Two gigs it is, then. For now, at least. Is 64-bit Vista even recommended at this stage?
How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.
[quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.
[QUOTE=''Thinker_145''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.[/QUOTE] Mrrmmm, seems like an unnecessary complication, and this is the first time I'll be building my own PC. :? Either way, I can stand a small performance penalty for the sake of greater simplicity and user friendliness.It seems the only issue between using 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Vista is that 32-bit Vista doesn't allow you to fully utilize 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Vista is a more reliable insofar as variety of choice of software/firmware/drdivers is concerned? Is the lack of choice of 64-bit drivers really that big of a problem?
get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Thinker_145''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.[/QUOTE] Mrrmmm, seems like an unnecessary complication, and this is the first time I'll be building my own PC. :? Either way, I can stand a small performance penalty for the sake of greater simplicity and user friendliness.It seems the only issue between using 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Vista is that 32-bit Vista doesn't allow you to fully utilize 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Vista is a more reliable insofar as variety of choice of software/firmware/drdivers is concerned? Is the lack of choice of 64-bit drivers really that big of a problem?[/QUOTE]The performance decrease in vista in crysis is phenomanel.Dont look at the benchmarks,it's the stutering.And dual boot isnt as complicated as you think.Just keep XP as your main platform and just use vista for DX10 games excepting crysis.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well. [/QUOTE]Agreed.I used to dual boot Vista and XP expecting tons of problems. I used XP so little, about 3 time in 6 months, that when I re-formatted due to new motherboard I just installed Vista.While dual boot is not a huge hassle, I would not do it for just one program.Also, I am running Vista 64bit Premium and have had no driver issues.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''filmography'']get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well. [/QUOTE]Agreed.I used to dual boot Vista and XP expecting tons of problems. I used XP so little, about 3 time in 6 months, that when I re-formatted due to new motherboard I just installed Vista.While dual boot is not a huge hassle, I would not do it for just one program.Also, I am running Vista 64bit Premium and have had no driver issues.[/QUOTE]Did you not notice the huge difference in performance in crysis between the 2 OS.And it hardly looks better in DX10.

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Help! New rig fails to boot correctly...

Hey all, im upgrading my pc as detailed at the end of this threadHowever i'm having some trouble getting it to boot. When i start it up, the lights start up and the fans all spin, except the cpu one. Nothing is displayed on the monitor, although it can detect when it is plugged in. The gfx card fan starts up fine. The new cpu fan has a 4 pin header so is controllable by the mobo. I tried my old one on there with a 3 pin header and the fan on that starts up fine. However, when i start the newer fan with it disconnected from the cpu is does start up, presumably because of the cpu heating up, so im pretty sure its not a fan problem. Ive also tried all the ram in different slots and with different sticks, and the same thing happens each time so i think thats not a problem. Oddly, without the 4 pin atx power cble the same problem also occurs so it could be a loose connection. I cant test the gfx card unfortunately as there is no onboard video and i dont have a spare pci-e card.Im a little worried abou teh cpu, as i had to apply quite a bit of pressure to the lever to get it down. However none of the pins look bent so thats ok...Anyone got any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.EDIT: LinkifiedHelp! New rig fails to boot correctly...
I don't really understand what you're getting at with the fans in like the second paragraph. Are you using pre-applied thermal paste (or clay in my opinion.) If it is wipe that junk off and get some Arctic Silver 5 and use that. Also, the lever usually takes pressure to push down so dont worry. Also, have you tried using the Ram 1 stick at a time? That's how you can tell if one is broken, happened to me with my first build.Help! New rig fails to boot correctly...
Basically, the 4 pin cpu fans arent working, but my old 3 pin one is. However, regardless of the fan, the computer isnt booting to bios at all. I tried my other power supply, and it made no difference unfortunately. The monitor is fine, so as far as i can tell its either the cpu, graphics card or motherboard thats dodgy. Its probably not the mobo as everythng else is working, so i reckon its the cpu...Im gonna try rebuilding my old system to see if its the cpu thats dodgy, but ill try that tommorrow if all else fails.I am using the ''clay'' that came with it, but thats the least of my worries right now anyway. I tried each ram stick individually already, but ill give it another go more systematically.
Your CPU fan might not be spinning up because the processor isn't hot enough. Most motherboards have a fan speed adjustment set up by default, so it's fairly normal for a fan not to spin up for a few seconds until the processor is sufficiently heated up.That being said, double-check all your connections - or even try disconnecting anything not vital to your computer (hard drives, optical drives, lights, etc.). Oh, and are you getting any POST beeps when you start up?
Thats what I thought initially, but after leaving it for a minute with no fan spinning the cooler got warm to the touch and i decided to turn it off. Ive checked all the connections, and i disonnected everything but the gfx card, cpu, ram, cooler and psu to see if it would work, but no luck :(Im going to test out my gfx card in this computer instead, see if it makes a difference.
[QUOTE=''crazytom49'']Thats what I thought initially, but after leaving it for a minute with no fan spinning the cooler got warm to the touch and i decided to turn it off. Ive checked all the connections, and i disonnected everything but the gfx card, cpu, ram, cooler and psu to see if it would work, but no luck :(Im going to test out my gfx card in this computer instead, see if it makes a difference.[/QUOTE]Sounds good - I'd try swapping as many parts as possible just to make sure. Probably do the power supply next.
Ok well thanks for all the help guys, i swapped out every part except the mobo and they all worked fine, so im concluding that its broken.It probably got damaged in transit, they stuck the 10kg speaker box ontop of the mobo box and completely bent in one side. Thankyou dabs and home delivery network, wont be using you again!Anyway ive rebuilt it with mostly my old components now, will ring up and complain tommorrow, try and get a replacement.

Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...

I got a mouse for Christmas and I have til the end of January to exchange it if I wish. It's the normally $99 mouse (it was grabbed for $50 on sale), MX Revolution. A wireless laser mouse by Logitech. It's been good fun, but it's already acting like it's worn out. The middle scroll is a lot looser than it was when it was new, and it's already a lot looser than my old mouse which I had for 3 years before it died. So I'm looking for a recommendation on a new one.
I'm willing to spend a little more if I have to, but the receipt will give me $50 back to buy another one. Anything over $70 would be too high for me. Thanks!Oh, and I think I may prefer Optical mice. Corded or wireless, it doesn't matter. I feel very very inaccurate in everything I do when I use a laser mouse...a feeling I never had when I used an optical mouse.Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...
Well i think the scroll wheel is suppose to get looser (initially it is stiff).

Are you looking for a another logitech? Wired or wireless?

A good wired gaming mouse (if your going to game) is a logitech G5 rev. 2
Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...
Doesn't matter if it's logitech, wired or wireless. And no, I know it's supposed to get loose, but it acts like it's worn out already.Customizable buttons are highly important to me.
Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D
[QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it)
[QUOTE=''Jebus4life''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it) [/QUOTE]Yeah I'd do as best you can to try it out first. I feel MUCH more accurate with an optical mouse, and I don't know why that is. I've been using this laser mouse non-stop for a solid month and I still feel a bit inaccurate with it.
Well, i would say get G7. Im using it now and im so happy without any complains.
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it) [/QUOTE]Yeah I'd do as best you can to try it out first. I feel MUCH more accurate with an optical mouse, and I don't know why that is. I've been using this laser mouse non-stop for a solid month and I still feel a bit inaccurate with it.[/QUOTE]

What you said is true. Laser engined mice still nee drefinements while optical perfected it for many years of development. If you want the perfect gaming opitcal mice, get the MX-518 no questions.

[QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]It's not terrible, but there are better mice on the market for the price like the Death Adder.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]It's not terrible, but there are better mice on the market for the price like the Death Adder.[/QUOTE]The feeling of a Razer just isn't for me; find the shape of a Microsoft much more comfortable for my palm
microsoft intellimouse explorer 2.0 is dirt cheap on newegg. I have been using this mouse for longer than I have had any of my current machines. Faded from years of fingering but still a solid performer.
The scrool wheel should click up and down... to allow for slow and fast scrolling. Try pressing it in and see if it stiffens up.

Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...

Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...
[QUOTE=''insidious13'']Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.[/QUOTE]Do you mean formating a drive?Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...
nope partitioning it .. you know... splitting it up into sections... slightly better performance... being able to boot diffrent OS
[QUOTE=''insidious13'']Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.[/QUOTE]Most Linux distros come with partitioning software. It is simple but most of the time unless you have a second hard drive or something to back up the info it will delete everything. It is not hard and there is no risk to your system or hard drive for that matter other than you will delet all of your data. Google it and find a linux that will work for what you are doing. It may sound complex but it turns out to be very easy.
Use Partition Magic
Partition Magic is easy to use and i think its safe
partition magic has screwed up on me before. I use paragon imho superior to partition magic. Paragon makes it easy to create raw partitions with no drive letter associated for easy os installation...that way c drive is main drive in each os
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It does that too...resize, move, consolodate space...pretty much anything you want to do with partions. Try the demo...you get like 30 days
So if i do it i loose all of my data...... games. songs,pics,software, etc? I dont have anything to back up my stuff....no external hdd.. or anything
paragon allows you to create an image of your drive that only takes up about 80 percent of the used space. you could create a partion in some of the empty space using paragon on your current partition and then use that to save the image beforehand.
Step One I download Paragon softwareStep Two I ..........??????
step 2 resize current partion to leave like 20 gb unpartitioned space. then apply changesstep 3 format empty space with new partiion ntfs default settings, apply changesstep 4 copy stuff to be saved into the new partion, pics, docs, music, video whateverstep 5....what are you trying to do again?
Ok... this is the drill i have an 80gb hdd..... technically 74.6gb... but whatever right now its just one big data dump.... i want to partition it into a couple sections... you know for better performance and what not.. and in the future maybe install linux...I want to do this without loosing any of my stuff........i dont want to re download like 8gb of steam games that i have or any of my software and stuff. oh and i have 24gb of unused space.
Partitioning a drive won't give you increased performance, except in some situations.Although it will allow you to (as you've said) install Linux in the future without having to touch your Windows Installation.
If you install your games to a different partion than your os you will NOTICE a performance gain. Games intall tons of files...lots of small ones and a few big ones but the small ones congest the mft and defragging just mixes it all with the os files and moves them farther apart degrading performance. If you want to improve performance the most important thing is separating installed games from the mix. I would create a 40 gig for the os and all programs other than games and use the other space for intalled games and media.
That sounds good and all but HOW...... without loosing anything... i dont mind removing a few of the steam games if i need to make room for something .....because i have the actual disc so...
okay.resize your partion with paragoncreate new partion in empty spacethen just move stuff overif you have game already installed, you will need to unintall them. you cant move themreinstall games pointing to the second partition when setup asks...it might be crytic in the setup wizards but the option is always there
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']If you install your games to a different partion than your os you will NOTICE a performance gain. Games intall tons of files...lots of small ones and a few big ones but the small ones congest the mft and defragging just mixes it all with the os files and moves them farther apart degrading performance. If you want to improve performance the most important thing is separating installed games from the mix. I would create a 40 gig for the os and all programs other than games and use the other space for intalled games and media.[/QUOTE]Well firstly, the only way that you'd get higher performance is to make a partition that went around the outside of the disk, as that's where throughput is highest.And by going with your logic, defragging will just mix up the game files together anyway, hence eliminating any performance increases that way, plus the main important thing is that a file is in one continual block so that the read head doesn't have to skip around the drive. Anything else is a negligable gain at best.
Not sure what you are talking about but the performance upgrade is very noticeable. When you streamline the os partition by removing hundreds of thousands of files you improve the performance of the ''shell'' (os) which affects everything...trust me. I read it in max pc years ago and have been using this method ever since. I had a huge performance gain in windows. the games themselves will load faster and so will everything else.

Noise

Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?Noise
The PSU and CPU are both basically silent, it is the fan being used to keep 'em cool. From my experiences cheap PSU's have horribly loud fans. A lot of stock cooling solutions for CPU's can be very loud.Noise
you'll have to tell us. put your finger on the center of the cpu fan to stop it while you listen.
In my case all i can hear is the case fans (92mm @ 2000RPM!)
Often times the GPU fan/ case fans are louder than the CPU/PSU fans. It all depends on what you buy.
[QUOTE=''grandhustle787'']Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=''grandhustle787'']Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?[/QUOTE]