wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...

ok so i was having problems with my pc it wouldnt turn on just the fan and the LED would turn on for like a milisecond and then tit stopped so i thought it was the psu then i left it oveernight with out touching it i woke up right now tried to turn it on and i saw a little flame on my mobo what is wrong what happen???it was working fine for the few days that i built it my specs are in my sig wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer''] ok so i was having problems with my pc it wouldnt turn on just the fan and the LED would turn on for like a milisecond and then tit stopped so i thought it was the psu then i left it oveernight with out touching it i woke up right now tried to turn it on and i saw a little flame on my mobo what is wrong what happen???it was working fine for the few days that i built it my specs are in my sig [/QUOTE] if you have warrenty take it back now, if you got it from newegg.com tell thm your problem they will tell you what to do.wth i tried turning my comp on and a fla ...
i built the computer?what do i need to return the mobo and the psu or what cuz for i sure im retutnign the mobo
if you saw a flame on the mobo then thats no good. Maybe the cpu and ram wasnt effected but you need to smell them and see if they smell like rotten eggs. thats how you know if they are burnt or not.
ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE] a few reasons, 1 do you have a surge protector? 2 do you have a screw inback of the mobo you forgot about? 3 faulty board.
would it be becuase of a screw maybe but i have to check do you think my psu was also dead from yestersays topic?
[QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE]

Maybe a faulty capacitor blew, in which case that would be covered by the warranty provided by the motherboard's manufacturer. You did use the spacer screws to separate your motherboard from your case right? If not it could have been a short circuit.
[QUOTE=''ProudLarry''][QUOTE=''sabbath2gamer'']ok but right now why would the mobo have gotten on fire[/QUOTE] Maybe a faulty capacitor blew, in which case that would be covered by the warranty provided by the motherboard's manufacturer. You did use the spacer screws to separate your motherboard from your case right? If not it could have been a short circuit.[/QUOTE] there is actually a chance that either static electric or maybe one of the dangleing wires somehow shocked the mobo, Thats why I tie them up in the top. only a theory though.
i didnt use the spacers cuz the case has some already emebeded in it
just ontop of my head, any electrical interference like maybe something electronic touching your case or magnets, cellphone, or moitor too close to the case?
Corsair PSU's have surge protection.I cant really help on this topic but i hope you get your PC working fine again.
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']just ontop of my head, any electrical interference like maybe something electronic touching your case or magnets, cellphone, or moitor too close to the case?[/QUOTE]i had an old monitor that is has alot of static but it was on top of my wooden desk and pc was to the right on tile floor
It sounds like the original problem was the board was shorting out. Since you saw flame, it is very possible the board is dead, so if possible you should try to get a replacement.Next time you get similar results, everything turning on for a second then turning back off. Try setting the motherboard up outside of the case on a phone book or something to see if the case is causing the shorting.
heres a pic
Where did you purchase it from? I would return it immediately.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Where did you purchase it from? I would return it immediately.[/QUOTE]i got it from zipzoomfly but the 30day warranty thing is over so i have to return it to MSI
From what I can see one of the capacitors fried, Do have a better image so we can see in more detail? Your Motherboard is fried you need a new one, CPU,Ram,GPU should be alright unless there was a big surge.
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i think the capacitator must have suffered from the flame so do you think all my other parts are still fine how would i be able to tell?

hows this card?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814143119



what do you think?hows this card?
its a borrring...hows this card?
great card.. one of the best on the market atm.
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']its a borrring...[/QUOTE]





....?
okay, its nice but only for like the next 2 years until all game require crysis worthy specs....sarcasm is hard to type
id personally wait till feb. cuz new cards are supposedly supposed to come out then.

Getting a 64-bit operating system?

I was thinking about grabbing a 64-bit operating system, but thought I'd ask here first. My card supports directX 10, so I *could* get Vista if I so wished (I currently use Windows XP Home Edition, 32-bit). First question is this: What are some of the main advantages (in a nutshell) of having a 64-bit operating system?Second question would be, What do I need to do in order to make my computer compatible with a 64-bit operating system? Because if I only need a 64-bit processor then I've got it. Getting a 64-bit operating system?
The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.Getting a 64-bit operating system?
[QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.
[QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE]Yeah I really have no reason to get 2 more gigs of RAM, actually. Thanks for the replies anyhow :)
[QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE] Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system?
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla'']Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system? [/QUOTE]Well if you look at it this way, the current sweet spot for ram on XP is around 2gig. Now Vista uses more ram then XP, so I'd recommend at least to get around 3 (or 4 if you're getting Vista x64) of ram.You'd probably find that you'd run fine on your system, but if you find the cash, I'd go up to 3 gig.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''G013M'']The main advantage that you'll see is that it removes the 4gig addressing cap, which will allow you to see all 4 (or more) gig of ram that you put into your PC.And all you need is a 64bit processor and you should be good to go.You just need to note that 16bit apps don't work at all in Vista x64. Which should be fine, but you've just got to be careful with the installers for some older programs, which are actually 16bit programs -- which means you won't be able to install those programs.[/QUOTE]The reason I ask is because I may pick up Vista eventually so I might as well pick up the 64-bit version, eh?[/QUOTE]What I'd recommend is that unless you are planning on aquiring 4gig of ram (or shortly after you buy Vista), I'd just stick with the 32bit version.I also forgot to mention that unless a new driver has been released, it's not very common that a product that was released before Vista (shortly before may be fine) to have x64 bit drivers. And you can't use 32 bit drivers in Vista x64. So I'd be mindful of that as well.[/QUOTE] Will 4GB of RAM actually make a huge difference over 2GB of RAM? Or over 3GB of RAM? In my thread you said that 3-4GB was recommended for Vista because of the resources it swallows up. My CPU and GPU will be a Q6600 and an 8800GT 512MB, so would 2GB of RAM be a bottleneck for this kind of system? [/QUOTE]I read on the Microsoft's website that anytime Microsoft certifies drivers for Vista 32 they require drivers for Vista 64 too.

[QUOTE=''visceron'']I read on the Microsoft's website that anytime Microsoft certifies drivers for Vista 32 they require drivers for Vista 64 too.[/QUOTE]Previously though there wasn't really a need for them to expend the effort to develop 64bit drivers, you could see that with the sketchy driver support for XP 64bit.Of course nowdays you'll see a Vista 64bit driver alongside a Vista 32bit driver the majority of the time, for the reason that you've said in your post.
A few things to consider when talking about 64-bit Windows:- even though new drivers come in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors and you'll have no problems finding drivers for common hardware like video cards and such, that is not the case for all your legacy hardware (printers, scanners, usb devices like mp3 players etc). Moreover, 64-bit drivers are less mature then 32-bit drivers (slower performance, more bugs). In case no Vista driver exists, you can try XP drivers on 32-bit Vista but you cannot use XP drivers on 64-bit Vista.- system software like anti-virus, defragmenting utilities, firewall's etc need a specific versions for vista 64. There aren't that many available- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.
[QUOTE=''Gog'']- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.[/QUOTE]''The large number of units that Supreme Commander can support at any given time means that you're likely to encounter hiccups when the action gets intense. The game will regularly throw hundreds of units on the screen, and your computer has to keep track of each one. We found that you'll need 1GB of RAM, at the bare minimum, to play the game effectively. If you've exhausted all the other video card and CPU upgrade avenues, you might want to consider bringing your total system memory up to 2GB or 4GB levels. We found that the game felt slightly more responsive with 4GB of memory even though it wasn't reflected in the frame rate results.''http://www.gamespot.com/features/6166198/p-6.htmlAnd they were playing in XP and not vista.
[QUOTE=''Gog'']A few things to consider when talking about 64-bit Windows:- even though new drivers come in 32-bit and 64-bit flavors and you'll have no problems finding drivers for common hardware like video cards and such, that is not the case for all your legacy hardware (printers, scanners, usb devices like mp3 players etc). Moreover, 64-bit drivers are less mature then 32-bit drivers (slower performance, more bugs). In case no Vista driver exists, you can try XP drivers on 32-bit Vista but you cannot use XP drivers on 64-bit Vista.- system software like anti-virus, defragmenting utilities, firewall's etc need a specific versions for vista 64. There aren't that many available- 2GB is the sweet spot for both XP and Vista. I have yet to see a game that runs better with more than 2 GB. Moreover, as long as programs are 32-bit , you won't be able to take advantage of 4 GB and beyond , even with a 64-bit OS.[/QUOTE]Two gigs it is, then. For now, at least. Is 64-bit Vista even recommended at this stage?
How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.
[quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.
[QUOTE=''Thinker_145''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.[/QUOTE] Mrrmmm, seems like an unnecessary complication, and this is the first time I'll be building my own PC. :? Either way, I can stand a small performance penalty for the sake of greater simplicity and user friendliness.It seems the only issue between using 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Vista is that 32-bit Vista doesn't allow you to fully utilize 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Vista is a more reliable insofar as variety of choice of software/firmware/drdivers is concerned? Is the lack of choice of 64-bit drivers really that big of a problem?
get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well.
[QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][QUOTE=''Thinker_145''][QUOTE=''mjarantilla''][quote=''Gog''] How many PC's do you see being sold with 64-bit Windows installed by default ? None, unless you explicitly ask for it.[/quote]So I guess that's a no to recommending 64-bit Vista? :P[/QUOTE]If you run dual boot with XP than not much worries in going 64-bit.I would recomend any gamer running vista to run dual boot with XP.So much better performance in crysis is worth it and basically better performance in every game.[/QUOTE] Mrrmmm, seems like an unnecessary complication, and this is the first time I'll be building my own PC. :? Either way, I can stand a small performance penalty for the sake of greater simplicity and user friendliness.It seems the only issue between using 32-bit Vista and 64-bit Vista is that 32-bit Vista doesn't allow you to fully utilize 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Vista is a more reliable insofar as variety of choice of software/firmware/drdivers is concerned? Is the lack of choice of 64-bit drivers really that big of a problem?[/QUOTE]The performance decrease in vista in crysis is phenomanel.Dont look at the benchmarks,it's the stutering.And dual boot isnt as complicated as you think.Just keep XP as your main platform and just use vista for DX10 games excepting crysis.
[QUOTE=''filmography'']get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well. [/QUOTE]Agreed.I used to dual boot Vista and XP expecting tons of problems. I used XP so little, about 3 time in 6 months, that when I re-formatted due to new motherboard I just installed Vista.While dual boot is not a huge hassle, I would not do it for just one program.Also, I am running Vista 64bit Premium and have had no driver issues.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''filmography'']get a 64bit operating system, we will be moving onto 64bit in the future so why not get it now. Also the driver support is fine for 64bit, I haven't had any problems. The only problem you will have is with old and I mean really old programs/printers etc, although that can happen with vista 32bit as well. [/QUOTE]Agreed.I used to dual boot Vista and XP expecting tons of problems. I used XP so little, about 3 time in 6 months, that when I re-formatted due to new motherboard I just installed Vista.While dual boot is not a huge hassle, I would not do it for just one program.Also, I am running Vista 64bit Premium and have had no driver issues.[/QUOTE]Did you not notice the huge difference in performance in crysis between the 2 OS.And it hardly looks better in DX10.

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Help! New rig fails to boot correctly...

Hey all, im upgrading my pc as detailed at the end of this threadHowever i'm having some trouble getting it to boot. When i start it up, the lights start up and the fans all spin, except the cpu one. Nothing is displayed on the monitor, although it can detect when it is plugged in. The gfx card fan starts up fine. The new cpu fan has a 4 pin header so is controllable by the mobo. I tried my old one on there with a 3 pin header and the fan on that starts up fine. However, when i start the newer fan with it disconnected from the cpu is does start up, presumably because of the cpu heating up, so im pretty sure its not a fan problem. Ive also tried all the ram in different slots and with different sticks, and the same thing happens each time so i think thats not a problem. Oddly, without the 4 pin atx power cble the same problem also occurs so it could be a loose connection. I cant test the gfx card unfortunately as there is no onboard video and i dont have a spare pci-e card.Im a little worried abou teh cpu, as i had to apply quite a bit of pressure to the lever to get it down. However none of the pins look bent so thats ok...Anyone got any ideas? Any help would be greatly appreciated.EDIT: LinkifiedHelp! New rig fails to boot correctly...
I don't really understand what you're getting at with the fans in like the second paragraph. Are you using pre-applied thermal paste (or clay in my opinion.) If it is wipe that junk off and get some Arctic Silver 5 and use that. Also, the lever usually takes pressure to push down so dont worry. Also, have you tried using the Ram 1 stick at a time? That's how you can tell if one is broken, happened to me with my first build.Help! New rig fails to boot correctly...
Basically, the 4 pin cpu fans arent working, but my old 3 pin one is. However, regardless of the fan, the computer isnt booting to bios at all. I tried my other power supply, and it made no difference unfortunately. The monitor is fine, so as far as i can tell its either the cpu, graphics card or motherboard thats dodgy. Its probably not the mobo as everythng else is working, so i reckon its the cpu...Im gonna try rebuilding my old system to see if its the cpu thats dodgy, but ill try that tommorrow if all else fails.I am using the ''clay'' that came with it, but thats the least of my worries right now anyway. I tried each ram stick individually already, but ill give it another go more systematically.
Your CPU fan might not be spinning up because the processor isn't hot enough. Most motherboards have a fan speed adjustment set up by default, so it's fairly normal for a fan not to spin up for a few seconds until the processor is sufficiently heated up.That being said, double-check all your connections - or even try disconnecting anything not vital to your computer (hard drives, optical drives, lights, etc.). Oh, and are you getting any POST beeps when you start up?
Thats what I thought initially, but after leaving it for a minute with no fan spinning the cooler got warm to the touch and i decided to turn it off. Ive checked all the connections, and i disonnected everything but the gfx card, cpu, ram, cooler and psu to see if it would work, but no luck :(Im going to test out my gfx card in this computer instead, see if it makes a difference.
[QUOTE=''crazytom49'']Thats what I thought initially, but after leaving it for a minute with no fan spinning the cooler got warm to the touch and i decided to turn it off. Ive checked all the connections, and i disonnected everything but the gfx card, cpu, ram, cooler and psu to see if it would work, but no luck :(Im going to test out my gfx card in this computer instead, see if it makes a difference.[/QUOTE]Sounds good - I'd try swapping as many parts as possible just to make sure. Probably do the power supply next.
Ok well thanks for all the help guys, i swapped out every part except the mobo and they all worked fine, so im concluding that its broken.It probably got damaged in transit, they stuck the 10kg speaker box ontop of the mobo box and completely bent in one side. Thankyou dabs and home delivery network, wont be using you again!Anyway ive rebuilt it with mostly my old components now, will ring up and complain tommorrow, try and get a replacement.

Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...

I got a mouse for Christmas and I have til the end of January to exchange it if I wish. It's the normally $99 mouse (it was grabbed for $50 on sale), MX Revolution. A wireless laser mouse by Logitech. It's been good fun, but it's already acting like it's worn out. The middle scroll is a lot looser than it was when it was new, and it's already a lot looser than my old mouse which I had for 3 years before it died. So I'm looking for a recommendation on a new one.
I'm willing to spend a little more if I have to, but the receipt will give me $50 back to buy another one. Anything over $70 would be too high for me. Thanks!Oh, and I think I may prefer Optical mice. Corded or wireless, it doesn't matter. I feel very very inaccurate in everything I do when I use a laser mouse...a feeling I never had when I used an optical mouse.Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...
Well i think the scroll wheel is suppose to get looser (initially it is stiff).

Are you looking for a another logitech? Wired or wireless?

A good wired gaming mouse (if your going to game) is a logitech G5 rev. 2
Looking to exchange a mouse and looking ...
Doesn't matter if it's logitech, wired or wireless. And no, I know it's supposed to get loose, but it acts like it's worn out already.Customizable buttons are highly important to me.
Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D
[QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it)
[QUOTE=''Jebus4life''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it) [/QUOTE]Yeah I'd do as best you can to try it out first. I feel MUCH more accurate with an optical mouse, and I don't know why that is. I've been using this laser mouse non-stop for a solid month and I still feel a bit inaccurate with it.
Well, i would say get G7. Im using it now and im so happy without any complains.
[QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life''][QUOTE=''Ironfungus''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]lol k thanks for the help :P[/QUOTE]np :PNo m8; I honestly wouldn't know; I'm having the exact same problem as you do (except I have never used a laser mouse before so I don't know if I will like it) [/QUOTE]Yeah I'd do as best you can to try it out first. I feel MUCH more accurate with an optical mouse, and I don't know why that is. I've been using this laser mouse non-stop for a solid month and I still feel a bit inaccurate with it.[/QUOTE]

What you said is true. Laser engined mice still nee drefinements while optical perfected it for many years of development. If you want the perfect gaming opitcal mice, get the MX-518 no questions.

[QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]It's not terrible, but there are better mice on the market for the price like the Death Adder.
[QUOTE=''RayvinAzn''][QUOTE=''Jebus4life'']Buy the Microsoft Habu and tell me what you think of it so I know if I should buy it :D[/QUOTE]It's not terrible, but there are better mice on the market for the price like the Death Adder.[/QUOTE]The feeling of a Razer just isn't for me; find the shape of a Microsoft much more comfortable for my palm
microsoft intellimouse explorer 2.0 is dirt cheap on newegg. I have been using this mouse for longer than I have had any of my current machines. Faded from years of fingering but still a solid performer.
The scrool wheel should click up and down... to allow for slow and fast scrolling. Try pressing it in and see if it stiffens up.

Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...

Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...
[QUOTE=''insidious13'']Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.[/QUOTE]Do you mean formating a drive?Partitioning scary stuff.... need some s ...
nope partitioning it .. you know... splitting it up into sections... slightly better performance... being able to boot diffrent OS
[QUOTE=''insidious13'']Ok so im looking to partition my drive but I see it as scary because you know i dont want to have a major crash and end up with nothing but spare parts so i need help,advice ... links, free partitioning software if better etc. And how to back up my OS ,important stuff just incase please. Im not completely ignorant when it comes to computers i have my fair amount of knowledge but im only 16 so.[/QUOTE]Most Linux distros come with partitioning software. It is simple but most of the time unless you have a second hard drive or something to back up the info it will delete everything. It is not hard and there is no risk to your system or hard drive for that matter other than you will delet all of your data. Google it and find a linux that will work for what you are doing. It may sound complex but it turns out to be very easy.
Use Partition Magic
Partition Magic is easy to use and i think its safe
partition magic has screwed up on me before. I use paragon imho superior to partition magic. Paragon makes it easy to create raw partitions with no drive letter associated for easy os installation...that way c drive is main drive in each os
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It does that too...resize, move, consolodate space...pretty much anything you want to do with partions. Try the demo...you get like 30 days
So if i do it i loose all of my data...... games. songs,pics,software, etc? I dont have anything to back up my stuff....no external hdd.. or anything
paragon allows you to create an image of your drive that only takes up about 80 percent of the used space. you could create a partion in some of the empty space using paragon on your current partition and then use that to save the image beforehand.
Step One I download Paragon softwareStep Two I ..........??????
step 2 resize current partion to leave like 20 gb unpartitioned space. then apply changesstep 3 format empty space with new partiion ntfs default settings, apply changesstep 4 copy stuff to be saved into the new partion, pics, docs, music, video whateverstep 5....what are you trying to do again?
Ok... this is the drill i have an 80gb hdd..... technically 74.6gb... but whatever right now its just one big data dump.... i want to partition it into a couple sections... you know for better performance and what not.. and in the future maybe install linux...I want to do this without loosing any of my stuff........i dont want to re download like 8gb of steam games that i have or any of my software and stuff. oh and i have 24gb of unused space.
Partitioning a drive won't give you increased performance, except in some situations.Although it will allow you to (as you've said) install Linux in the future without having to touch your Windows Installation.
If you install your games to a different partion than your os you will NOTICE a performance gain. Games intall tons of files...lots of small ones and a few big ones but the small ones congest the mft and defragging just mixes it all with the os files and moves them farther apart degrading performance. If you want to improve performance the most important thing is separating installed games from the mix. I would create a 40 gig for the os and all programs other than games and use the other space for intalled games and media.
That sounds good and all but HOW...... without loosing anything... i dont mind removing a few of the steam games if i need to make room for something .....because i have the actual disc so...
okay.resize your partion with paragoncreate new partion in empty spacethen just move stuff overif you have game already installed, you will need to unintall them. you cant move themreinstall games pointing to the second partition when setup asks...it might be crytic in the setup wizards but the option is always there
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']If you install your games to a different partion than your os you will NOTICE a performance gain. Games intall tons of files...lots of small ones and a few big ones but the small ones congest the mft and defragging just mixes it all with the os files and moves them farther apart degrading performance. If you want to improve performance the most important thing is separating installed games from the mix. I would create a 40 gig for the os and all programs other than games and use the other space for intalled games and media.[/QUOTE]Well firstly, the only way that you'd get higher performance is to make a partition that went around the outside of the disk, as that's where throughput is highest.And by going with your logic, defragging will just mix up the game files together anyway, hence eliminating any performance increases that way, plus the main important thing is that a file is in one continual block so that the read head doesn't have to skip around the drive. Anything else is a negligable gain at best.
Not sure what you are talking about but the performance upgrade is very noticeable. When you streamline the os partition by removing hundreds of thousands of files you improve the performance of the ''shell'' (os) which affects everything...trust me. I read it in max pc years ago and have been using this method ever since. I had a huge performance gain in windows. the games themselves will load faster and so will everything else.

Noise

Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?Noise
The PSU and CPU are both basically silent, it is the fan being used to keep 'em cool. From my experiences cheap PSU's have horribly loud fans. A lot of stock cooling solutions for CPU's can be very loud.Noise
you'll have to tell us. put your finger on the center of the cpu fan to stop it while you listen.
In my case all i can hear is the case fans (92mm @ 2000RPM!)
Often times the GPU fan/ case fans are louder than the CPU/PSU fans. It all depends on what you buy.
[QUOTE=''grandhustle787'']Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=''grandhustle787'']Can someonr tell me which part of the computer causes the most noise? The PSU or the processor?[/QUOTE]

Crysis problems

Hi. i have a Geforce 8400 gs graphics card. i just bought crysis and i cant play it because it is very slow and the graphics are just awful. i know it shouldnt be like this because ive seen crysis and it has amazing graphics.anyone knows what i showld do?Crysis problems
8400GS? Sorry man, not much you can do with a $50 gfx card and the most demanding graphical game yet. Lower your res and the settings is about all you can do, still probably won't run well though. Crysis problems
yea im sorry to say but the 8400 is not gonna get you the graphics you've probbaly seen Crysis is capable of. Either put down money for an 8800 GT or lower your in game settings.good luck
what graphics card do you recomend?
[QUOTE=''xbox_psp'']what graphics card do you recomend?[/QUOTE]Depends how much you want to spend. Better cards also require a lot more electricity, so you might need a better power supply with something like the 8800GT.
[QUOTE=''xbox_psp'']Hi. i have a Geforce 8400 gs graphics card. i just bought crysis and i cant play it because it is very slow and the graphics are just awful. i know it shouldnt be like this because ive seen crysis and it has amazing graphics.anyone knows what i showld do?[/QUOTE]its not the game that makes the game run smooth its the card and your card is just awful for gaming the video card is what makes a computer a gaming computer heres a good list $160 will get you a 2900pro$180 3850 i have one and i was able to play crysis on medium with some stuff on high till my comp died on me $250-280 3870 ( i would buy this one since it offers better picture quality in games from what i heard) but if you have the money buy the 8800gts (g92) or wait for the 3870x2 but its going to be about $500$290-$300 8800gt should be able to play crysis on high at a resonable resoultion$330 8800gts (g92) a little bit better then the 8800gt

I really need your help please

hey guys i need your help with something. ive got an mx518 logitech mouse which is about 3 years old.i havent had any problems with it. However of late if i leave the mouse unatended for some period of time and then i try to use it all i get is the cursor moving about in jitters.no smoothness it jsut jumps here and there as if under some massive lag. Also this renders the rest of my pc unresponsive. cant start,alt tab or ctrl alt del. i tried disconnecting the mouse from the usb hub and putting it back in but no good.it doesnt even detect it because my pc is left hanging. i end up having to restart the pc everytime. I even deleted the installtion of the setpoint thing for logitech but still no good.id really appreciate some help here guys.much thanks in advance.I really need your help please
[QUOTE=''crazyfist36''] hey guys i need your help with something. ive got an mx518 logitech mouse which is about 3 years old.i havent had any problems with it. However of late if i leave the mouse unatended for some period of time and then i try to use it all i get is the cursor moving about in jitters.no smoothness it jsut jumps here and there as if under some massive lag. Also this renders the rest of my pc unresponsive. cant start,alt tab or ctrl alt del. i tried disconnecting the mouse from the usb hub and putting it back in but no good.it doesnt even detect it because my pc is left hanging. i end up having to restart the pc everytime. I even deleted the installtion of the setpoint thing for logitech but still no good.id really appreciate some help here guys.much thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I had a similar problem once before with a different mouse and found that it was a problem with my drivers. Your problem may be completely different however try updating/reinstalling your drivers and try again.I really need your help please
yeah try to re-install drivers then post what you are getting.
ok will do guys but i find it hard to believe that a mouse would lead to my whole system stalling.alsoi restarted my computer and left it as it was while i went out. i came back and nothing was responsive.mouse keyboard desktop all frozen.something tells me this isnt to do with the mouse.i even cleaned out the pc,dust and stuff.ill see how it goes.
ok i reinstalled the drivers for my mouse.cleaned out the insides of my pc but the problem persists. windows just hangs up after a while of inactivity. as long as im using the pc there is no problem but if i leave it for like 30 minutes or so it just hangs up.what do i do? should i just reinstall windows ? It all started last night when i was going to sleep and i had my playlist playing. it kept hanging up after like 30 minutes or so and the problem is still there no matter what i try.ive done virus scans and spyware adware scans and they show up with nothing.pc isnt heating up or anything coz i can play crysis on hihg settings for hours on end so i dont know what it is.
[QUOTE=''crazyfist36'']ok i reinstalled the drivers for my mouse.cleaned out the insides of my pc but the problem persists. windows just hangs up after a while of inactivity. as long as im using the pc there is no problem but if i leave it for like 30 minutes or so it just hangs up.what do i do? should i just reinstall windows ? It all started last night when i was going to sleep and i had my playlist playing. it kept hanging up after like 30 minutes or so and the problem is still there no matter what i try.ive done virus scans and spyware adware scans and they show up with nothing.pc isnt heating up or anything coz i can play crysis on hihg settings for hours on end so i dont know what it is.[/QUOTE]Sounds like it may still be a virus/spyware problem, either your scanner can't detect it or its a tricky bastard that will only be scanned if you boot into safe mode. If you want to boot into safemode keep hitting F8 after you power up your computer, this will give you a list of boot options and Safe Mode should be at the top (select it with the arrow keys and press enter). Once your in Safe Mode run your virus scanner (I suggest Avast 4). Hopefully if there is a bad virus it will detect it and delete it. If that fails you may have to do a repair install of Windows.
[QUOTE=''General_X''][QUOTE=''crazyfist36'']ok i reinstalled the drivers for my mouse.cleaned out the insides of my pc but the problem persists. windows just hangs up after a while of inactivity. as long as im using the pc there is no problem but if i leave it for like 30 minutes or so it just hangs up.what do i do? should i just reinstall windows ? It all started last night when i was going to sleep and i had my playlist playing. it kept hanging up after like 30 minutes or so and the problem is still there no matter what i try.ive done virus scans and spyware adware scans and they show up with nothing.pc isnt heating up or anything coz i can play crysis on hihg settings for hours on end so i dont know what it is.[/QUOTE]Sounds like it may still be a virus/spyware problem, either your scanner can't detect it or its a tricky bastard that will only be scanned if you boot into safe mode. If you want to boot into safemode keep hitting F8 after you power up your computer, this will give you a list of boot options and Safe Mode should be at the top (select it with the arrow keys and press enter). Once your in Safe Mode run your virus scanner (I suggest Avast 4). Hopefully if there is a bad virus it will detect it and delete it. If that fails you may have to do a repair install of Windows.[/QUOTE]that or maybe its time for a new mouse
oooo dont tempt me i really want a new mouse. but seriously though i did the F8 thing and i kept geting sent into the boot menu but all it shows there is somehting like:removable diskhard diskcdromseach of those has my hardware listed.so instead i ran a full registry scan and got rid of problem entries.over 2000 of them.i'll see how this plays out.just to make sure though its nothing to do with say my ram or motherboard or so is it? because i can play any game at its highest for hours on end and also have no hang up whilst im using the pc.just when i leave it idle.thanks for your helps so far guys.

concealer

What tv resolution is this compared too?

1280x720, that is 720P right? Or what res is 720P? 1080 P?What tv resolution is this compared too?
yep, 1080p is 1920x1080What tv resolution is this compared too?
yes 1280x720 is 720p, and 1920x1080 is 1080pYou can also get 480i, the standard resolution of an sdtv, and 1080i, which is sort of 1080p but with every other line refreshing alternately rather than all at once.
so 1280x720 is like a 720P tv?
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990'']so 1280x720 is like a 720P tv?[/QUOTE]Crazytom49 just told you that ''yes 1280x720 is 720p''I don't think that it could get much clearer than that. :P lol
[QUOTE=''My_name_a_Borat''][QUOTE=''xfactor19990'']so 1280x720 is like a 720P tv?[/QUOTE]Crazytom49 just told you that ''yes 1280x720 is 720p''I don't think that it could get much clearer than that. :P lol[/QUOTE]lol we posted at same time

Tell me if this makes sense......please.

ok, so the old m9750 laptop is 17 inches, with T7200, and 7950 GTX meaning its more of a power hog. Well the new laptop has a 8800m gtx, T7600, and is smaller 15.4 inches, either way alienware gives me bull saying that my computer is not powerful enough (watts) to power the new stuff, while all of them take a fraction of the power, my card takes 40, and 8800m is 35, regardless im wondering should i just buy it and install myself?Tell me if this makes sense......please.
Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.Tell me if this makes sense......please.
ya thats whati was thinking lol they were saying o no u can upgrade then they were like ummm no not compatible, i believe they are riding the m15x hype train. cuz both cards are mxm III
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Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*
no i know they are after my money lol but im saying is am i right or are they right, can i upgrade?
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...

[QUOTE=''yoyo462001''][QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...
[/QUOTE]While the numbers maybe wrong, the 8800m GTX uses less power than the 7950 GTX, at least according to AnandTech.''The 8800M GTX ends up using slightly less power than the last-gen Go 7950 GTX,'' It says that right below the charts.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''yoyo462001''][QUOTE=''TrooperManaic'']Alienware has always been know as a company that wants your money no matter what, though I have no idea with laptops. If what they say is true then you would have wasted money but it probibly could be fixed by switching one part.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=''death1505921'']Alienware after your money? *Shock, horror*[/QUOTE]Dell want your money, nvidia want your money Ati want your money newegg want your money no matter what.... two very dumb posts from guys who usually talk alot of sense... and btw to TC your new one is more of a powerhog.. FYI the 8800mgtx is not 35 watts by a long shot...
[/QUOTE]While the numbers maybe wrong, the 8800m GTX uses less power than the 7950 GTX, at least according to AnandTech.''The 8800M GTX ends up using slightly less power than the last-gen Go 7950 GTX,'' It says that right below the charts. [/QUOTE]Ya lol i know, thats why i was like ummmm wtf????? Lol it takes less to power it why cant u upgrade it? Thats mxm III same as mine
Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''ch5richards'']Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....[/QUOTE]I have no idea really, I don't know what they look like or how big they are, just making random guesses.
[QUOTE=''ch5richards''][QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''ch5richards''] Sounds like Alienware is either full of BS, or has someone who knows nothing about the laptop answering your question.I guess it is possible it won't physically fit, or there is some sort of compatibility issues, but it seem as though power would not be a problem.[/QUOTE]why would it not fit, i believe its the exact same ''chip'' size etc.....[/QUOTE]I have no idea really, I don't know what they look like or how big they are, just making random guesses.[/QUOTE]http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10%26um=1%26hl=en%26q=8800m%26ie=UTF-8%26sa=N%26tab=wi
inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE]it is NOT soddered. there is this thing called MXM and its like PCI-E for notebooks tho, see the 7950 GTX is MXM III, as is the 8800m gtx
[QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE] Yeah, its not that easy at all. You need an expert that you feel he can do this job. I dun think you want someone to destroy yout toy or do yo ?
lol but im 100% sure its not soddered. I can open it and even add another 7950GTX etc right now assuming i get card and cables
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990''][QUOTE=''yoyo462001'']inorder to change the GPU your going to have to spend quite alot of money hiring someone who knoes about this stuff, because its soldered onto the motherboard, you will not be able to do it yourself.[/QUOTE]it is NOT soddered. there is this thing called MXM and its like PCI-E for notebooks tho, see the 7950 GTX is MXM III, as is the 8800m gtx[/QUOTE]ok, where are you going to get the GTX module from? because they are hardly anywhere on the market and second of all you have to take into account that MXM is mainly for manufacturers to easily change GPU and i guesing you dont know much about the different heat dispersion each module has... to be honest it is really not worth it at all.

im not saying i want to do it, however, i think its complete BS that they wont upgrade it, all i want is to pay for my new card and get it installed
[QUOTE=''xfactor19990'']im not saying i want to do it, however, i think its complete BS that they wont upgrade it, all i want is to pay for my new card and get it installed[/QUOTE] well this is only for uk but they can be bought seprately http://www.nvidia.co.uk/page/geforce_8800m.html

Need help on purchasing/building a compu ...

Soo, I have never built a computer before but I'm going to attempt to, I need your help. I need all of the following parts for my previouslly bought computer (I bought from dell, don't ask lol ) and I need to know if these will be all compatible. Motherboard : [URL]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131142[/URL]Ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211066Video Card : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130290Powersupply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153052I will be using the CPU that came with my computer it's not great but it'll do (on a tight budget) and it's an Intel Pentium 4 2.79 Ghz cpu.Thank you, please reply.Need help on purchasing/building a compu ...
not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okayNeed help on purchasing/building a compu ...
[QUOTE=''j3ninja10'']not bad, cpu will hold you back alittle, but can hold you over until you get some more money. it will play one year old games great, but current games will play okay[/QUOTE]K thanks a ton, so everything's compatible and stuff?
Make sure your dell case can accommodate your motherboard. Dell's newer computer has the I/O panel built-in (at the rear) and other motherboards do not fit in the case. Also, keep in mind that you will have to reactivate Windows in about 2 weeks after using your hard drive with those upgrades.
get this mobo overall its better and cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059 also this card is a little bit better and once again cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102700 it might not have 512mb of video ram but since both cards have 128bit from what ive hard it would be a bottleneck and you really need to upgrade you cpu really soon since i listed you cheaper parts try to get this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116037 at stock speeds it kills your pentium 4 and with that motherboard i listed it should overclock to great speeds
heres a cheaper powersupply too http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371006
Wait until the 9000 series come out, instead of getting a 8000 series. It'll support Direct X 10.1, the 8600 only has 10, and it's not compatible with any future ones. So getting a mid-range 9000 is way better than a mid-range 8000, so you should spend the extra $50 or so to make sure your PC will last more than a year.
K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.
[QUOTE=''dackchaar'']K, thank you master shake I'll try to get the parts you listed.[/QUOTE] go for it and if you can just push your budget like $40 that E2140 would help alot espically if you get a good overclock on it you should get around 2.8-3.0ghz no problem

Good CPU and RAM stress programs

What are some good recommendations to put stress on my RAM and CPU?


Good CPU and RAM stress programs
Prime95OCCT

Need some quick feedback...

So I am going to buy a new nvidia card... I was all set on getting a nice eVGA 8800GT 512mb superclocked card that looked pretty nice. Then I saw for only $20 more I could get an MSI 8800GTS 640m OC card. Basically the way I read it is that it sounds like a nice card. Its the newer 112 stream processor. I am not too sure and a bit confused on which one would be better. Newegg has a great price on the card at 289.99 and you get a 20 mail in rebate. The 8800GT is 269.99. I know the GTS doesnt have the price/performance ratio that the 8800GT does... but this card seems really nice. A bit more memory though it is 575mhz and the 8800GT is 650mhz. Help! Someone I am sure is much more tech savy than me and would know better. MSI also just released the card. What do you think? And dont say neither... wait for a new card or save up blah blah.. I am buying one or the other just need to decide. Thanks in advance!Need some quick feedback...
no stick with the 8800gts 512mb edition dont get the 640mb card Need some quick feedback...
the 8800gt superclocked is the better of those two cards
Wait for the 9000 series. It'll be compatible with DirectX10.1 and future DX's so it'll ensure that your system is futureproofed.

Overclocking sounds like a nightmare..

I want to overclock this processor..http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116052Can I overclock it to around 3.0 GHz without worrying about the fan and everything?Any good tutorials out there that explain how to overclock.. I'm a huge noob and don't even know how to get into my BiosOverclocking sounds like a nightmare..
if you want to overclock that far you defenantly needs a heatsink fan or watercooler.hers a complete guidehttp://www.nvidia.com/docs/CP/45121/nforce_680i_sli_overclocking.pdf Overclocking sounds like a nightmare..
that proc should go to 3ghz pretty easily on stock cooling

concealer

How good will my pc be

Im planning on buying 4 gigs (2x2) to i think make my computer pretty good (not on a crysis level) and i was wondering what you thinkProcessor : Amd athlon 64 x2 Dual Core processor 3800+Video Card: Nvidia Ge Force 8600 256 mbRam: G. Skill 4gig (2x2) (future a.k.a. soon here)Hard Drive. 200 gbSound Card: some stock stuff ( it works thas all i care for)
How good will my pc be
zero performance gain in games and 32 bit apps with 4gig vs 2gig. Some and only some 64 bit apps that need that kind of memory will benefit. Ur not running a server are you?How good will my pc be
forgot to say os : vista home premium
well i only have 1024 mb now so i thought 4 gigs would be really goodbecause most of my games need more memory
you only need 2 gigs to maximize performance...2 sticks never 4
Do not buy a 8600GTS! The ATI HD3850 is much better!
i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards
[QUOTE=''deathshand707'']i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE]Yeah, but the 8600 definately won't be running laps around ATi's best cards...
yeah ati cant compete with nvidias best but they still have a hold in the middle market, which just happens to be your budget. If you buy a mid range nvid card just despite ati, you're just kissing the ass of a camel you never get to ride. 3850 ownz 8600gt
[QUOTE=''deathshand707''] i hate atiand i already have an 8600ive seen tests were nvidia run laps around ati's bests cards[/QUOTE] hahaha, dude you have no idea what you are talking about! The HD3850 kicks the 8600GTS's butt.
That's the same RAM I ordered on Friday! I hope it performs well...
I feel sorry for you kinda, cause you won't get much life out of the 8600GTS. You really shouldn't hate another video card company, in this case ATI, because it'll blind you to some of the excellent (and cheap) cards they're offering.
for one i wasnt talking baout the 8600 running laps around atis mid end but soone enought ill get an 8800 or wutever new is coming from nvidia

Can't play MP4s?

A little pissed of ATM. I've got iTunes/Quicktime, Windows Media Player and windows media player classic. All updated to the latest, and none of them will play my MP4 files! Quicktime run the video but nothing shows up...... How do I open these? I also can't drag them into iTunes like I've heard.... How do I play them?Sorry if this is thw wrong forum, but I'm not really sure where to put this.Can't play MP4s?
i use k lite MEGA with lots of stuff option for playback of virutually all files through mpcCan't play MP4s?
Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play.
[QUOTE=''trodeback'']Try VLC media player. I have yet to find something that it doesn't play. [/QUOTE]Yes! DL'ed VLC and it works! Thanks Broski!

Which one makes gaming better??

processsor:
Intel?Core%26trade;2 Duo Processor E6850 (4MB L2 Cache,3.0GHz,1333 FSB)
or
Intel?Core%26trade;2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB) video card:
512MB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GT
or
Dual 256MB nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS Which one is better in terms of gaming?? Which one makes gaming better??
Right now in gaming the E6850 will beat the Q6600, as most games are only optimised for Dual-Core at best.And I'd go for the single 8800GT.SLI's increase varies per game, so in some you may get double, and in others you may get very little performance gain.Which one makes gaming better??
if you can wait just for 1 week, you can get the new E8400 for even cheaper than E6850 and for sure both arent even comparable.
For the video card SLI mid-range-cards doesnt meant at all same performace as 1 high-end-card. 8800GT beats 8600GT SLI easily and you cant even think about it.
If you want to get 2 cards. Get 2 X 3870s. 3870 in crossfire > 8800GT in SLIIt's cheaper too.
[QUOTE=''death1505921''] If you want to get 2 cards. Get 2 X 3870s. 3870 in crossfire > 8800GT in SLIIt's cheaper too.[/QUOTE] But i think since he was talking about SLI, then his mobo doenst support CF and mostly he got Nvidia chipset.
E8400+8800GT would be the best choice
Are you building a new rig or just upgrading the CPU?
[QUOTE=''dayaccus007'']E8400+8800GT would be the best choice[/QUOTE]agreed.
Thx for the suggestions.... So this E8400 is coming out soon??[QUOTE=''kodex1717'']Are you building a new rig or just upgrading the CPU?[/QUOTE]Im thinking of upgrading it..
The new E8400 just came out on Newegg for $224.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400
[QUOTE=''weihan39'']Thx for the suggestions.... So this E8400 is coming out soon??[QUOTE=''kodex1717'']Are you building a new rig or just upgrading the CPU?[/QUOTE]Im thinking of upgrading it..[/QUOTE]It's out now!http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400

Which of these CPUs are better?

Core 2 Quad core (8mb L2 cache, 2.4ghz)orCore 2 Duo (4mb L2 cache, 3.0ghz)Which of these CPUs are better?
alreadyWhich of these CPUs are better?
They didn't really answer the question though.
better for what then? gaming? 64 bit multithreaded dna sequencing?
Depends. For older games having a faster processor speed is better, but in reality any dual core with over 2.0ghz will handle almost any game. The thing about quad cores are they have slower core speeds but they can be overclocked to 3.0ghz to match the factory clocked dual cores. If your into multi-tasking like having lots of programs open at once it would be better to get a quad core. If your into gaming it would be better to get a dual core and overclock it to it's max. Although this will only hold out for a short while. In the future games will have much better support for multi-cored processors, so for a more future proof processor you'd want to get the quad. This is all base on of course if the prices are relatively the same.
The E6850 is pointless if your mobo can support the E8400, which is cheaper, faster and oc's like no tomorrow.
[QUOTE=''BeavermanA'']The E6850 is pointless if your mobo can support the E8400, which is cheaper, faster and oc's like no tomorrow. [/QUOTE]Too true. The E8400 produces less heat so you can get higher overclocking speeds, plus it has more cache, plus it's cheaper then an e6850.
How do you overclock?
Get this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400If you have to ask you probably shouldn't try. You need to do some research first.
i cant believe newegg man jacking up the price like that ?
Supply and Demand.
$192http://www.onsale.com/shop/detail.aspx?dpno=7369554%26store=onsale%26source=bwbfroogle

Need some help with my first PC build.

So I thought that I had a perfect budget PC build, but now I have decided to change my mind and start from scratch again. Here is what I have, this is my first time building a PC, so if anything is not compatible please tell me. Here it is:Video CardCase (A 8800GTS will fit in this right?)PSU (550w is enough to power a 8800 I hope)MoboRAMCPU (What is the next cheapest Dual Core processor that will give me good perf and no bottleneck my 8800GTS besides this one?)Now, the thing is, I need to shave off about $40 from this build. Would this mobo be a possible solution to a cheaper board (I only plan on ever having 2gigs)? And would a AMD X2 4600+ or 4880+ still give me good performance and not bottleneck my 800GTS? Thanks for any help guys, I need to get my parts before the end of the month. Need some help with my first PC build.
You want to save money with that rig? Switch the graphics card to the HD2900GT.Need some help with my first PC build.
This is all I found on newegg for the HD2900GT. How does this card stack up against a 8800GTS? Is it any better than a 8600GTS? Just wondering because there are no reviews on it.
looks like a good budget machine...hope it works out for you. Consider upgrading the mobo to a more performance oriented northbridge model and maybe the psu..if you can wait/afford it.
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']looks like a good budget machine...hope it works out for you. Consider upgrading the mobo to a more performance oriented northbridge model and maybe the psu..if you can wait/afford it.[/QUOTE] looks really god except video card isnt worth the price if budget is on your mind then save some money with this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129102 If gpu is your main priority then any of theese will do http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE%26N=2010380048%20106791921%201067932704%201068310557%26bop=And%26Order=PRICE
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic''] [QUOTE=''NewClean'']looks like a good budget machine...hope it works out for you. Consider upgrading the mobo to a more performance oriented northbridge model and maybe the psu..if you can wait/afford it.[/QUOTE] looks really god except video card isnt worth the price if budget is on your mind then save some money with this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129102 If gpu is your main priority then any of theese will dohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE%26N=2010380048%20106791921%201067932704%201068310557%26bop=And%26Order=PRICE [/QUOTE] BTW that rig should run all games except crysis on high crysis would be on high on DX9 but not very high
Alright, so this is hopefully my last revised list, and I made it under $500.MoboPSUVid CardCaseRAMCPUAny suggestions of this final build would be appreciated. And also, would that 500w PSU be able to handle that Video Card well, and what EXACTLY is PCI-e 2.0? Are PCI-e 2.0 cards still compatible with PCI-e x16 slots? I am a little bit confused about that.
hard to say no to that card because it fills the middle market so well...but your power supply really bothers me. 500w, yeah but for how long, and more important: how accurate are the voltages...what about at full load...how much do they dip. You dont want to know the answers and Rosewill sure doesnt want to know either. maybe this computer is much better with just 40 dollars more on the psu
oh yeah, no worries with the new card
[QUOTE=''NewClean'']hard to say no to that card because it fills the middle market so well...but your power supply really bothers me. 500w, yeah but for how long, and more important: how accurate are the voltages...what about at full load...how much do they dip. You dont want to know the answers and Rosewill sure doesnt want to know either. maybe this computer is much better with just 40 dollars more on the psu[/QUOTE] eh I have a rosewill and it does everything I need it to, I even get awesome performance in overclocking but the one he posted isnt the one I reccomended so I wouldent know whit that particular model. I would just suggest this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182017 anyway I have built many computers and with rosewill, the quality is only on the 550watt powersupplies and over. BTW this PSU can be compared to a $100 PSU.
oh and BTW why skimp on the videocard the GECUBE GC-HD3850PG3 cannot be compared to the VisionTek 900206 Radeon HD 3850 and its only $20 more. That extra $20 gives you a much better performance boost over the 256 gddr3 version. oh and BTW its a 512mb GDDR4 version http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129102

Which of these processors is the better ...

I buying a new pc and have a choice of 2 processors to get. Intel?CoreTM 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB) Intel?CoreTM 2 Duo E6850 (3.00Ghz, 4MB Cache, 1333Mhz FSB)So which one is the better one because they both have the same price tag ?Which of these processors is the better ...
wait for wolfdale chips. they will be out soon.Which of these processors is the better ...
tough one! I was contemplating that very issue last night. I think the quad core is better all around but the difference between the two as far as gaming is negligible.
the faster CPU is the E6850 it willl beat the Q6600 in nearly all benchmrks and games the only ones which it wont beat it in are the well mulithreaded apps like sony vegas... but i would go for the Q6600 as its better for multitasking...
[QUOTE=''rassclart'']I buying a new pc and have a choice of 2 processors to get. Intel?CoreTM 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB) Intel?CoreTM 2 Duo E6850 (3.00Ghz, 4MB Cache, 1333Mhz FSB)So which one is the better one because they both have the same price tag ?[/QUOTE]As of right now , maybe the core 2 duo(a 3.0 core 2 duo is awesome...I only have a x2 4200...at 2.2), but in the long run, the quad, especially if you plan to overclock it...I could be wrong though, wait for someone who'd know more than me...
you will always be able to wait for the next thing to come out. fact is, you buy the best today and in six months they stop carrying it at frys cause its so old...maybe a little exagerated but a new tech proc running on an immature northbridge with 1st gen boards doesnt appeal to me.
Neither.Get the E8400.$100 cheaper than both of those and better.
ok then im leaning towards the quad core but there is one last processor i could possibly get and that is the AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition AM2 Dual Core 3.20GHz Is one any better?
[QUOTE=''theshadowhunter'']wait for wolfdale chips. they will be out soon.[/QUOTE]The E8400 is already out.http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage%26thispage=0110030005018_BN60960P.shtml%26order_id=!ORDERID!
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''theshadowhunter'']wait for wolfdale chips. they will be out soon.[/QUOTE]The E8400 is already out.http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage%26thispage=0110030005018_BN60960P.shtml%26order_id=!ORDERID![/QUOTE]newegg has them now toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400
I really need a verdict on this AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 6400+ Black Edition AM2 Dual Core 3.20GHz Is it better than these Intel?CoreTM 2 Quad Q6600 (2.40Ghz, 8MB Cache, 1066Mhz FSB) Intel?CoreTM 2 Duo E6850 (3.00Ghz, 4MB Cache, 1333Mhz FSB)
GET THIS!!!!http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400
I myself got an E8400 yesterday for $190. It isn't nearly as attractive at today's prices, but it's still a great CPU if you don't do a ton of multitasking and are going to be overclocking.
[QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''theshadowhunter'']wait for wolfdale chips. they will be out soon.[/QUOTE]The E8400 is already out.http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage%26thispage=0110030005018_BN60960P.shtml%26order_id=!ORDERID![/QUOTE]newegg has them now toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400[/QUOTE]I think a overclocked kentsfield can still beat the Wolfdale, but just not as efficiently..
[QUOTE=''BET8390''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''musclesforcier''][QUOTE=''theshadowhunter'']wait for wolfdale chips. they will be out soon.[/QUOTE]The E8400 is already out.http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/shop/shop.cgi?action=thispage%26thispage=0110030005018_BN60960P.shtml%26order_id=!ORDERID![/QUOTE]newegg has them now toohttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037%26Tpk=e8400[/QUOTE]I think a overclocked kentsfield can still beat the Wolfdale, but just not as efficiently..[/QUOTE]Have any proof? I didn't think so. This chip can overclock to 4.0ghz easily on air, 4.5ghz if you really want to push it or want to benchmark.
Check out the results people are getting already.http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=544212
wow didnt know the wolfdale chips were at newegg now, they need to update their search to add them, overpriced though too...

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Question about processor (2)

Which is better Core 2 Duo E6600 - 2.40 GHz (4 MB L2, 1066 MHz FSB) 279.99or Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.40 GHz (2x4 MB L2, 1066 MHz FSB) 234.99
I don't understand how the first processor is more expensive when the Q6600 has 8 MB L2. Can anybody explain this?Also what does 8MB L2 mean? Which way does it effect the performance of the processor?Thanks.Question about processor (2)
um the q6600 has two different cache of 4mb for 2 cores each... i thinkQuestion about processor (2)
All I can say is that the E6600 may perform better in some applications out now its not worth buying. The Q6600 on the other hand is a quad core and is future proof. Finally the more L2 the better. In short L2 is memory for the cpu and the more you have the better. http://www.cyberwalker.com/article/125
The second processor (the quad core one) is better. Cache is the processor's memory. Data goes from the hard drive to the RAM, then from the RAM to the cache (which is on the processor chip), and then from the cache to the processor to get processed. As for the price, well, the store that's selling the dual core is a ripoff, or the store that's selling the quad core has good prices or is having a sale, or maybe even both.
No, the chips are both from the same business(newegg), and the prices seem to be this way in other shops too. Just found it to be quite strange.
[QUOTE=''Ugotownedo'']The second processor (the quad core one) is better. Cache is the processor's memory. Data goes from the hard drive to the RAM, then from the RAM to the cache (which is on the processor chip), and then from the cache to the processor to get processed. As for the price, well, the store that's selling the dual core is a ripoff, or the store that's selling the quad core has good prices or is having a sale, or maybe even both.[/QUOTE]the dual is not a rip off... it was the first batch of conroe released and with technology after a while better things are made with better prices... e.g. i bought my E6320 for less than the E6300 even though it has 2mb cache more..its basic economics really, its easier to produce them so the price becomes lower.

[QUOTE=''Ugotownedo'']The second processor (the quad core one) is better. Cache is the processor's memory. Data goes from the hard drive to the RAM, then from the RAM to the cache (which is on the processor chip), and then from the cache to the processor to get processed. As for the price, well, the store that's selling the dual core is a ripoff, or the store that's selling the quad core has good prices or is having a sale, or maybe even both.[/QUOTE]You realize that it's 4MB cacnhe per 2 cores for the quad core so in most games it wont use the full cache.
You have the prices reversed anyway. Looked on newegg myself, its the Q6600 thats $280, not the E6600. The E6750 is cheaper and better than the E6600 if you want to go dual core and your mobo supports them. There's also the new Wolfdale's too, E8400 at $225.
[QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']All I can say is that the E6600 may perform better in some applications out now its not worth buying. The Q6600 on the other hand is a quad core and is future proof. Finally the more L2 the better. In short L2 is memory for the cpu and the more you have the better. http://www.cyberwalker.com/article/125[/QUOTE]I dont think that the E6600 can outperform the Q6600 in anything.
Right now, nothing really takes advantage of quad core. But the reason you should get it is because future application and game will take advantage of it.
[QUOTE=''Thinker_145''][QUOTE=''nVidiaGaMer'']All I can say is that the E6600 may perform better in some applications out now its not worth buying. The Q6600 on the other hand is a quad core and is future proof. Finally the more L2 the better. In short L2 is memory for the cpu and the more you have the better. http://www.cyberwalker.com/article/125[/QUOTE]I dont think that the E6600 can outperform the Q6600 in anything.[/QUOTE]Your right but theres not much of a difference. A stock E6700 beats the Q6600 though in most single/dual threaded application because of its higher clocks.
[QUOTE=''grandhustle787'']No, the chips are both from the same business(newegg), and the prices seem to be this way in other shops too. Just found it to be quite strange.[/QUOTE]That's becuase the E6*00 series has been superceeded with the E6*50 series, which was cheaper for intel to produce, and also becuase production on the original series would have been toned down in light of the newer model.

CPU help ??

ok ok my mother board does socket 775i have a 3.4ghz pent 4 w/ HT in it.i found on newegg a

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor

Im pretty sure thats A LOT better then what i have but will it work in my board? thx?CPU help ??
your motherboard needs to be core 2 quad compatable, it should be in the motherboard manual or there should be websites that tell you if it is compatable, just google search.

Updating Drivers

I just used system requirment lab. The only problem was with my intell integrated graphics. I had the memory i needed. The program said that their was a free updated driver for that card. if i upgrade or download and install the driver will this increase the performance fo the card? Updating Drivers
You should probably go and get a video card now. Integrated cards take away ram and suck. Updating Drivers
general rule is dont install new driver unless you experience some problem. heard it all my life...dont fix it.I tend to update drivers that are severly out of date...like more than a couple months, but locate the specs of the update and see if it applies to your situation.
Well this is my dads computer and hes had the computer for a few years and i dont think he has updated the drivers at all.
Should i download the driver the program i am using(system lab) recomends?
doesnt matter how you get it. just make sure you use the add/remove progs in windows to uninstall the current driver first...watch out for the separate uninstall utility entry in the list. Use the uninstall utility if it shows up in the list
So will this upgrade my graphics card a tiny bit before i do this?
maybe...read the spec sheet for the update first, then you decide...manually go to the website and look up the update as if you were downloading it from support or downloads whatever. then look for details or something to find the actual improvements...most likely the same performance but will fix bugs...but if you dont experience any bugs...
well can someone suggest a pci video card that will play wow and bf2 on low at least? That runs on 200-250 wats?
pci? pci express?
all of the new cards use about 200 watts at load...are you saying that your ps is only 200-250 to begin with?
pci and the psu has 200-250 wats all together,

How can I convert Hi-definition videos t ...

I just bought a new camcorder, a high definition one of course. Right now I don't have the money to buy a computer that can edit High definition videos. I'm thinking about getting a Mac Pro, but I've got plenty of time to decide right now. Anyway, the camera I bought uses an mpeg-2 format. I've been looking around for things that will convert but I'm very confused by it at the moment. I was wondering if there's a good way to convert it to standard definition so I can edit the footage on the computer I'm using currently (It's Windows XP.)How can I convert Hi-definition videos t ...
Virtualdub should be able to convert it, and you can convert it to another format if you want -- just be warned that it will take a while to convert HD video.It's freeware, so if it doesn't work, you don't lose anything.Virtualdub.orgHow can I convert Hi-definition videos t ...
Thank you very much! And thanks for warning me about the time factor too, but I have a lot of it so it's okay :D

Sound Card is very important?

Hey...I was just wondering what the purpose is of a sound card...I just bought a new hp AMD X2 5000+ and it's not a gaming rig at all.....(integrated graphics card....I don't even know what sound card is in it) and I was wondering since I really don't think it's necessary to buy a new sound card will it affect me at all? I listen to music on my comp and I have some 30$ off-brand speakers...but it still sounds crisp and fine...If I decide to pick up an 8800GT and get oh....say Bioshock and start to play it...the sound will still be as it always has been right?Sound Card is very important?
for me i had my intergrated sound for a while and while just playing music and watching videos it was fine but when i played games on it sometimes the sound would cut out and get choppy. then i gotan X-fi sound card and the sound was better and never cut out and it also seemd like my games ran smoother. so it made games run better on mineSound Card is very important?
[QUOTE=''Blackfriend8'']for me i had my intergrated sound for a while and while just playing music and watching videos it was fine but when i played games on it sometimes the sound would cut out and get choppy. then i gotan X-fi sound card and the sound was better and never cut out and it also seemd like my games ran smoother. so it made games run better on mine[/QUOTE]That's more likely an isolated case than a truth. If you buy a video card and find that when playing games you have poor sound, then it might be worth it to buy a sound card.
[QUOTE=''The_Fell_One''][QUOTE=''Blackfriend8'']for me i had my intergrated sound for a while and while just playing music and watching videos it was fine but when i played games on it sometimes the sound would cut out and get choppy. then i gotan X-fi sound card and the sound was better and never cut out and it also seemd like my games ran smoother. so it made games run better on mine[/QUOTE]That's more likely an isolated case than a truth. If you buy a video card and find that when playing games you have poor sound, then it might be worth it to buy a sound card. [/QUOTE]
If you only have $30 speakers and are happy with the sound then NO it's not worth it. Only if you have high quality speakers or headphones is it worth it IMO.
what about 100 speakers? Is that worth it?
Depends on your preferences to good quality sound. If you have the sound system and want the best sound in audio then get a sound card but then again, most people don't care for the difference between a dedicated sound solution and integrated sound. I personally enjoy my X-Fi card and love the crisp sound of EAX but I never got any major speed increase in my games as some as claimed. Maybe 1 or 2 frames due to off loading the work off of the CPU.
[QUOTE=''Cdscottie'']Depends on your preferences to good quality sound. If you have the sound system and want the best sound in audio then get a sound card but then again, most people don't care for the difference between a dedicated sound solution and integrated sound. I personally enjoy my X-Fi card and love the crisp sound of EAX but I never got any major speed increase in my games as some as claimed. Maybe 1 or 2 frames due to off loading the work off of the CPU.[/QUOTE]As you've said, the frame rate difference is negligable at best most of the time. Unless you want to use EAX in games (or any other equivilent) the only real reason (IMO) that you'd buy a soundcard is if you are unhappy with how your speakers sound right now.Most people won't be able to tell the difference between an internal soundcard and a seperate one.
realtek HD audio is amazing, my dad has a soundblaster X-fi, and i hear no difference, actually i think mine sounds better.
[QUOTE=''theshadowhunter'']realtek HD audio is amazing, my dad has a soundblaster X-fi, and i hear no difference, actually i think mine sounds better.[/QUOTE]Well the first ones (Audigy i think) aren't really high fidelity. also maybe his speakers aren't that good?all i know is i had realtek HD with the same set of speakers that i now have the x-fi extreme and there is a HUGE difference.
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[QUOTE=''b0ssy''] SOUND CARD FOR GAMES (MANDATORY IN MY BOOKS)(DIRECTIONAL SOUND AND STUFF)INTEGRATED FOR MUSIC OR SOUNDCARD IF YOU HAVE MONEY[/QUOTE] I have 7.1 surroundsound in my mobo, is that good enough? I have been lisening with 4 regular stereo speakers and 2 13'' base all connected to a home stereo. The base is soo good in crysis that I feel like im there but when I turn my sound to high I actually loose 2-5 frames. So should I get a soundcard to offload the cpu?
I've heard that a dedicated sound card can actually increase overall performance by 15%. Positional audio and environmental effects in real-time apparently eat up a lot of CPU cycles.
if you're going to be doing some intensive fps gaming like cs:s and want to own.you need a soundcard.ok?
onboard wont cut it..with a dedicated soundcard it gives you real depth in hearing and positional sound
[QUOTE=''b0ssy''] if you're going to be doing some intensive fps gaming like cs:s and want to own.you need a soundcard.ok?[/QUOTE] I dont play CS anymore but I was getting over 200fps
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic''][QUOTE=''b0ssy''] SOUND CARD FOR GAMES (MANDATORY IN MY BOOKS)(DIRECTIONAL SOUND AND STUFF)INTEGRATED FOR MUSIC OR SOUNDCARD IF YOU HAVE MONEY[/QUOTE] I have 7.1 surroundsound in my mobo, is that good enough? I have been lisening with 4 regular stereo speakers and 2 13'' base all connected to a home stereo. The base is soo good in crysis that I feel like im there but when I turn my sound to high I actually loose 2-5 frames. So should I get a soundcard to offload the cpu?[/QUOTE]well, i've heard in some cases that a soundcard can give you a boost upwards of 10fps.uh, you make the call on this one.
[QUOTE=''TrooperManaic''][QUOTE=''b0ssy''] if you're going to be doing some intensive fps gaming like cs:s and want to own.you need a soundcard.ok?[/QUOTE] I dont play CS anymore but I was getting over 200fps[/QUOTE]if i wanted to increase my fps, i wouldnt be buying a soundcard but rather upgrading my other hardware.i bought my soundcard for sound not for fps increase.
[QUOTE=''G013M''][QUOTE=''Cdscottie'']Depends on your preferences to good quality sound. If you have the sound system and want the best sound in audio then get a sound card but then again, most people don't care for the difference between a dedicated sound solution and integrated sound. I personally enjoy my X-Fi card and love the crisp sound of EAX but I never got any major speed increase in my games as some as claimed. Maybe 1 or 2 frames due to off loading the work off of the CPU.[/QUOTE]As you've said, the frame rate difference is negligable at best most of the time. Unless you want to use EAX in games (or any other equivilent) the only real reason (IMO) that you'd buy a soundcard is if you are unhappy with how your speakers sound right now.Most people won't be able to tell the difference between an internal soundcard and a seperate one.[/QUOTE]While I'd agree everyone has ears that don't interpret things the way some other peoples might, but...I can't believe you would personally (did you say that? :P) say that your X-Fi with EAX enabled %26 the Crystalizer on in games doesn't blow away your onboard sound. Basic onboard audio doesn't have EAX %26 a crystalizer (unless Creative is selling X-Fi licences now) and sounds kinda empty compared to a full blown sound card. Of course all this is premised on having a quality set of speakers though and not some $30 2.0 set.

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This is some bull****!

I just found out that Rhapsody conflicts with my ATI drivers for my video card which = no music downloads. I've got to find a download site that doesn't conflict with my hardware/software. Any suggestions?This is some bull****!
napsterThis is some bull****!
i tunes
I thought about napster but the problem I'm having is that the DRM information could not be accesed from my computer. Doesn't napster also use DRM technology?
I'll try napster and see what I get.
try limewire
I finally got it to work. Windows drivers.:roll:
[QUOTE=''dude6578'']try limewire [/QUOTE] try to get rid of 50 million viruses
[QUOTE=''unrealplaya55''][QUOTE=''dude6578'']try limewire [/QUOTE] try to get rid of 50 million viruses[/QUOTE]Don't dl .exe or 14kb files that are supposed to be a song.
torrentsno viruses + free music = win
[QUOTE=''white45e''] torrentsno viruses + free music = win[/QUOTE] =breaking the law
Yea torrents are the best. Very few corrupted files, bout the only bad thing is poisoners, but just have to ban their ip's.

Are they compatable?

Hey guys I've been thinking about upgrading my CPU to an E8400 from my E4500 I have now. My question is is this CPU compatable with my Gigabyte P35 DS3l board? I heard I would have to update the BIOS how do I do that? Also will I notice a performance difference from this CPU from my current E4500?Are they compatable?
bumpAre they compatable?
Probably it iwll work but you will need aBIOS Flash for sure. About having new aBIOS just google for guide step-by-step how to do one because you can brick/destroy your mobo if anything goe wrong.
About performace, mostly you will have greater performace but i hope that your other compnents wont bottleneck it

Microphone has this lagg/echo ...

Hi, thx for helping.My microphone seems to lagg when I'm on voice chat over steam, msn, etc. To be precise, I can hear my voice through my speaker when I speak into it, except my voice is heard two seconds later. It gets pretty annoying, since I speak, hear my own voice, and then the recipient responds. Here some quick specs: Soundcard is onboard Realtek High Definition Audio (drivers are updated to R1.84). Thx again for helping.

Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 versus Cooler ...

Hi, I'm planning to buy one of those cases and which one should I buy? I saw Cosmos 1000 has a VGA airduct for my 8800GTS 640mb, which is good, but the Stacker 831 is somehow more expensive. Can someone explain and help me please?!Cooler Master Cosmos 1000 versus Cooler ...
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I've got the 831, and it's pretty freakin' awsome.Both sides allow airflow, and it's large enough to fit pretty much anything you'd want to put in it.
I have the Cosmos. IMO the Stacker is more stylish, specially the front and the side panel. But the Cosmos is conceived towards to be a silent case, and is even more bigger and heavier, and at the same time more advanced in his internal distribution, and the inner space is awesome. Both are great, outstanding cases, maybe only surpased by the one of the HP Blackbird 002.
Both are great cases so we cany say that any is rubbish. IF you are looking to have classical stylish silent one then Cosmos is yours but if you are looking to have some modern gaming style with hell great airflow then go with STacker. That doesnt mean that Cosmos doesnt have anice airflow but Stacker is better at this point.

How much would a good gaming computer be ...

I'm looking to possibly build a gaming computer for my graduation present. Could I build a good computer that would run games like Crysis and Call of Duty 4 on High settings for around $1000 dollars. That price includes the monitor but I'm looking for a good mid-size monitor. Thanks guys.How much would a good gaming computer be ...
[QUOTE=''ProdigalJon'']I'm looking to possibly build a gaming computer for my graduation present. Could I build a good computer that would run games like Crysis and Call of Duty 4 on High settings for around $1000 dollars. That price includes the monitor but I'm looking for a good mid-size monitor. Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]hmm $1200 would be a little more realistic especially if you don't have any carry over parts. Though for $1000 you could prolly pull off a budget machine that'll play CoD4 pretty close to high, not so much on the Crysis end of things though.Here's a value gaming rig build: [url]http://www.sharkyextreme.com/guides/MVGSBG/article.php/3714091[/url]The biggest weakness there is the video card, but by the time graduation rolls around you'll be able to buy more GPU power for the same amount of money.How much would a good gaming computer be ...
With a cheaper case and not the greatest video card, and R.A.M., you could pull it off.
you can do it. i built mine for $1300specs:q6600 3.0 ghz4gb kingston ramevga 8800 gtmobo (dont know what kind)caseorder all of your parts off of newegg and you can get a better deal than that since i bought my processor (which you can get on newegg for a little over $200) for like $340. i carried over my monitor since it was a nice lcd 19''. if you can up your budget a little you can totally do it. i can setup a pc for you on newegg and see if you like it. just send me a message.
Here:2GB G.Skill RAM $47GIGABYTE P35-DS3L Mobo $100HannsG 19'' LCD Monitor $170RAIDMAX Astro Case $30WD Caviar 160GB Hard Drive $50LITE-ON DVD RW Drive (SATA) $30FSP 450W PSU $55Microsoft Keyboard + Mouse Combo $22Vista x64 Basic $95Sapphire ATI HD3850 512MB $200Intel Core 2 Duo e6550 $175 Logitech S-220 2.1 Speakers $22There ya have it. Grand total is $994.88. Of course, if you can spend another $40 (which I would strongly reccomend) get an hd3870 instead of an hd3850. Either way, thats a very solid gaming machine, with all the peripherals (mouse, keyboard, monitor, operating system.)Core specs are a Core 2 Duo e6550 processor, hd3850 graphics, 2GB RAM.
I like Baselerd's build, but I'd probably opt for an AM2+ motherboard (790X chipset preferably, but 770 will do), HD3870, and Athlon 64 X2 5000+ instead.
around 1500$RAM: corsair 2GB 1066 MhzGPU: 2x8800 GtPSU: FSB 1010wattCPU: intel 6600QMob: evga nforce 680i a1Case: GigabyteMonit: Samsung 226bw 22''HDD: 1TB WDCD %26 DVD: LG 16xDVD-+R
[QUOTE=''mo_mmf'']around 1500$RAM: corsair 2GB 1066 MhzGPU: 2x8800 GtPSU: FSB 1010wattCPU: intel 6600QMob: evga nforce 680i a1Case: GigabyteMonit: Samsung 226bw 22''HDD: 1TB WDCD %26 DVD: LG 16xDVD-+R [/QUOTE]



boo to the 8800gt in sli, and the 680i mobo. id get a p5e mobo and one 8800gt, will save you money... if SLI is that important to you then get the 780i and an 8800gt, even then you would save money. powersupply is very much overkill too, a good 700watt one would be fine if you want to SLI later.



and i highly doubt he will ever use even half of a 1tb HDD
Keep in mind that if this is a graduation present, prices will drop a good bit by the time you'll actually use it. My biggest piece of advice is to wait unti you're actually going to use the machine so as to get the lowest prices. DDR2 RAM might actually go up in price a little, but CPUs and graphics cards should be a bit cheaper in a few months.
[QUOTE=''Lilgunney612''][QUOTE=''mo_mmf'']around 1500$RAM: corsair 2GB 1066 MhzGPU: 2x8800 GtPSU: FSB 1010wattCPU: intel 6600QMob: evga nforce 680i a1Case: GigabyteMonit: Samsung 226bw 22''HDD: 1TB WDCD %26 DVD: LG 16xDVD-+R [/QUOTE] boo to the 8800gt in sli, and the 680i mobo. id get a p5e mobo and one 8800gt, will save you money... if SLI is that important to you then get the 780i and an 8800gt, even then you would save money. powersupply is very much overkill too, a good 700watt one would be fine if you want to SLI later. and i highly doubt he will ever use even half of a 1tb HDD[/QUOTE]the problem is with 780i you can't make 3way with GT you have to get GTX or Ultra1010 watt i only buy it for 190$ and it may help me in the future8800gt Sli for crysis lolHDD onstly i have 2.5 TB i use it for DVD video editing and downloading lol i don't think you will need less then this if youhave a hight speed internet lol. any way think for the comment :)
[QUOTE=''mo_mmf'']the problem is with 780i you can't make 3way with GT you have to get GTX or Ultra1010 watt i only buy it for 190$ and it may help me in the future8800gt Sli for crysis lolHDD onstly i have 2.5 TB i use it for DVD video editing and downloading lol i don't think you will need less then this if youhave a hight speed internet lol. any way think for the comment :)[/QUOTE]You can't go Tri-SLI with a 680i chipset board either. Tri-SLI isn't restricted by the motherboard, it's restricted by the number of SLI connectors on top of the graphics card. And I'd rather have a quality 750w power supply for $190 than a crappy 1000w unit for that price.

cant set contrast on samsung 226bw

says not available..i installed the drivers cant set contrast on samsung 226bw
fixed itnvmcant set contrast on samsung 226bw
[QUOTE=''b0ssy''] fixed itnvm[/QUOTE] lol, please try harder before just to post threads :P
Can you tell how it was fixed? I can't set either contrast or colors, only brightness. MagicTune and NaturalColor are installed.

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Ram clock speed question.

Please don't flame me, im not a hardcore pc gamer as og yet. ;)When I bought the mainboard I have now, a Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe, nForce 570 SLI,, I also bought 2 gigs of DDR2 Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 ram. From what the info on that site said it was going to run a 800mhz. BUt when I us CPU-Z I get that the ram runs at 380mhz and on the SPD page in the same program it says that it runs at 270 and 400mhz.Im all confused :( Please help.Ram clock speed question.
The real clock of the ddr2 is divided by 2. 800mhz is just 400mhz, 667 is just 333mhz, and 533 is 266mhz. DOn't be confused.. :D For additional info, search in the internet!Ram clock speed question.
that is... retarded...
[QUOTE=''trasherhead'']that is... retarded...[/QUOTE]

No, its not retarded, its DDR (Double Data Rate) RAM. So you take the speed that its runs at (400MHz) and double it, to get the effective speed (800Mhz).
[QUOTE=''trasherhead'']that is... retarded...[/QUOTE] lol, this is how the life goes :D
Even in GPU in memory rate got doubled as well to show you the effective speed of it
[QUOTE=''trasherhead'']that is... retarded...[/QUOTE]Just deal with it.
You rams clockspeed is 380mhz, but because its DDR (Double Data Rate) the effective clock will be 760mhz. Most software like CPU-Z don't show you the effective clockspeed, but all you need to do is X it by 2. EVEREST will show you the effective clock.